Might one ask(like you'll answer any question simply) how you feel about africans or japanese for instance?

the soap story, if you check out the simon wiesenthal story, they will confirm that the soap story is not true.

yes logic, to kill someone you either use your bare hands or a weapon. The alledged use of the ZyklonB weapon is impossible under th circumstance described at Auschwitz.

no one has said that ZyklonB was not used at Auschwitz, only that it was used for delousing the clothes of prisoners in order to stop the Typhus epidemic spreading, its ironic but true the germans tied their best to save those people from dying of Typhus.

no, ZyklonB was not used to delouse prisoners, only their clothes, handbags, shoes etc.

but you have bought it hook line and sinker havn't you. For example, you have been shown a picture of a pile of clothes, nothing more, nothing less, and, you were told these clothes belonged to ZyklonB zapped prisoners, which you have believed straight away, without asking any questions regarding the allegations of mass murder, and furthermore without any proof of ZyklonB used on prissoners.

tell me, is Krema I at Auschwitz in its original state, or has it been restored?

I had a japanese girlfriend once and what I can say is the japanese are highly cultured, very intelligent and I admire them greatly. The best thing the Japanese did was to tighten their borders and retain their ethnic integrity by making it very difficult for people to emmigrate their. This policy has ensured that them islands remain Japanese which is great in my book, for instance, when I go to Japan on a holiday I want to see Japanese people, eat Japanese food, and hear Japanese voices. I dont want to see Chinese people, eat Chinese food or hear Chinese voices. Not that iv'e got anything against Chinese, but, that is not the reason to go to Japan for is it?

Also, my old japanese girlfriend told me that the japanese know all about the jews. In their country, the other side of the 'Holohoax' story and the stories of jewish involvement in 20th century affairs has not been entirely suppressed since the war, in fact, its commons knowledge of what the jews stand for and who they are, which is why the japs have wisely retained their ethnic integrity.

Concerning Africans, well, the traditional tribes people and bush men, I also have great respect. They have retained their traiditional way of life, and they have remained in balance with nature by preserving their organic religion, traditions and way of life.

The big problems in Africa has been the overbreeding. Africans are still hunters and gatherers by nature, to pretend that Africans should work in factories and industrial cities is an insult to them as well as us. The reason for overbreeding, has largely been a result of the success of European farmers who colonised the place over two centuries ago. I think nature is already resolving the situation with the rampant disease epidemics, and theirs not much we can do about it, so why pretend we can. We should stop meddling in African affairs, let Africans take care of Africa, and Euorpeans take care of Europe, everyone should mind our own business.

It depends on what them 14 nationalities are. For instance, if youve got DNA from 14 different European decent nationalities then your most likely going to be White Caucasian. Alternatively you may have Negroid DNA or Asiatic / Semitic DNA, I dont know, unless you tell me what the 14 Nationalities are?


also...these are not my defintions, but the standard definitions used by academia, government, police, doctors, almost everyone everywhere. Ever heard a police report which says - "White male Caucasian", or a Pathologist report which will state the ethnicity of deceased.

Hey I just saw you got made topic of the month, or well, your topic has
And, you made exactly 88 post




*Off to edit the death in june video*

*sighs again*

you can't do it can you... you can't answer yes or no... Well, no ones here telling you what to say, so i guess not...

The majority of the 14 are based off of indo-european roots.. LOL IF you had fully read my other post about my grandfather, you would have known that... But apparently, as others have noticed, you don't read other posts as you wish to have yours read..

I actually believe that i am more human that you are for various reasons.. But i also believe that my son is more human than i am.. And he has trouble believing what you copy/paste.. Of course he has some aztec, and two other DNA sources added to the mix i had. So he says you probably don't even think he's human..

Maybe not the soap story, I have no substance to argue about that, but then, I do know that also, Simon Wiesenthal is, in actual fact a nazi colaberator... Funny how you just so happen to mention another, nazi... Its funny... It really is.... Why don't you just give me some clear sources... Give me some clear sourses not by some little BNP flyer and not from any Nazi or neo nazi function.... Then maybe we will get somewhere.... I happen not to trust that shit.... Anyone from either Stormfront.com, or BNP, or any other bullshit organization I tend to just want to spit in their faces.... SO give me something from clear sources... Then I will rationally argue the point... Because right now, as it stands, I just don't believe any of the shit you are spouting....


So what you are saying is that the Nazis did want to kill the Jews? They did kill Jews... Just not by gas....? And Auschwitz is just one of the many camps... WHy is it that all Neo-nazi organizations mention just that one? Maybe because its the only line of argument they have... Seems to be....




SO Zyklon B was used in the camps? Only as a de-louser? On clothes? So your telling me that they threw pellets onto the clothes? But you said....

But I thought that it wasn't used as a gas? So all of a sudden it was? And well, dragging bodies out of a chamber whilst smoking... You are aware that they would have to take the gas out of the chamber before they went in there to drag out the bodies.... Utterly impossible to go in there without taking the gas out or if the gas was still in there, they would have had to have wore gas masks, making it highly improbable to smoke... Unless they were Jews... I mean, Jews are superhuman... Superman was Jew... Jews can't be effected by poisonus gas to "delouse their clothing"....



Yeah, while their clothes were in piles, they sent the prisoners to the "Showers" where they had "showers"... Showers... Lets focus on that for a moment.... I actually used to own a book on this... (My grandfather wouldn't talk much about the war so I figured that I would study it.) It was a big book with lots of pictures in it... Pictures of dead jews, piled on top of eachother, naked, in the middle of shower rooms, you could tell they were climbing on top of eachother to find the air vents so they could actually breathe. Pictures of Nazi soldiers with blunt objects beating on Jews while other soliders looked on at the "Fight".... Disturbing shit...




Yeah, there were a whole lot of clothes in those showerroom pictures... Because usually, what the Nazi's used to do was throw all of the jews clothes into the shower rooms to delouse them... The Jews of course, being superhuman, felt that their dignity had been taken from them and broke into the "shower rooms" to find their clothes, only to intantly die of typhus on the spot...




Tell me, is Auschwitz the only place the Nazi's invaded? Is that the only substance you have? Tell me of other places... Other places just like this, NOT from one of your BNP flyers or Stormfront sources...

The ridiculous soap allegations are the reason people like Friend exist today. Some of the holocaust stuff was exaggerated to the point of absurdity by well intentioned people. Think about it, would YOU use soap that was made from human fat? Do you think the average German would? I doubt even a Hitler worshipping SS officer would do that. Just because it's gross.

I've vistied the Mass gas chambers of a few concentration camps on my tour of Europe.

I'm sorry, where they retrofitted AFTER WWII.

Have you visted the camps? Unless you have then you have Idea Zip about what you're talking about. Were you there when the camps were liberated.

BTW my uncle burried some of the bodies..... With no medical precautions other then a bulldozer. He never caught any disease, now at the time his immune systemw as quite low due to time spent in warfare.

One of the officers at the camp was a Doctor who confirmed that the dead died form verious causes, admittedly some did die of disease and malnutrition, but the whole of the amount...

This is a notion of preporsterous belief in light of the Wannasee conference minutes, the evidence of Mengele and Eichmans own diaries and the actual bodies and physical structures.

EL

really, which ones? there's only one retroffited gas chamber at Auschwitz, Krema I, and the remains of other gas chambers in many of the camps are out of bounds for tourists, so you can't of really looked at them, can you, because you need special permission to view the real remains.

no I wasn't which is another reason why I dont believe the jewish story.

No one ever dismisses that their were lots of bodies at the camps, but it's the way these people died which is the argument. You, like the jews and many other people on this site claim they were murdered with gas, and yet you have no proof, only empty buildings (that incidentally have no deposits of cynanide ), eye witness statements, and photographs of piles of human hair, clothes and dead bodies, which dosn't prove anything.

For example, just after the war many claims were made by American soldiers that their was a gas chamber at Dacheu, but this claim was later dropped, even by the jews, similiarly for the soap story. Here is part of an eye witness account of a Treblinka website:

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland...roduction.html

" The whole thing it took I would say between five and seven minute. The door opened up, not from the side they went in but the side from the other side and from the other side the...the group...people working in Treblinka number 2, which their job was only about dead people. They took out the corpses. Some of them dead and some of them still alive."

Now, given the information I know about ZyklonB and HCN gas, I would say that it would be impossible for aperson to drag a body out of the chamber without full protective clothing, a gas mask, rubber boots and gloves.

Well, as you all want another reference from a supposedly non-bias source, check out the New York Times, March 3, 1991. They source a report of the wartime German concentration camp records that had been captured by the Soviets and just recently released. According to the figures they claim, of those dead, 38,031 were Jews. These records state that the total of all persons who died in the ENTIRE German prison camp system from 1935 to 1945 were 403,713. To repeat: a total of 403,713 persons of all races and religions was officially recorded to have died (of all causes. typhus, old age, measles, etc.-and execution) in the entire prison camp system over a 10 year period. Of those 403,713 a total of 73,137 died at Auschwitz. Of those 73,137 who died at Auschwitz, 38,031 were Jews.

38,031 Jews dying of all causes, this is not 1.1 million.

People are so brain washed that its conceivable some people dont use toilet paper, simply because Hitler used toilet paper.

For all the lemmings on this site, I can only say that one day the true story of the alleged holocaust will be told, through which I might add, a free and open debate, without violent intimidation, without fear of predjudice or irrationality, and I believe that this day is quickly approaching, and then the jews will be called to account in front of the whole world. Simon Wiesanthal and his associates, and decendents are going to be hunted down in exactly the same way they hunted down Eichmann.

let justice be served, swift and sure.

Just to prove my point that most ( not all ) jews are evil liars who should not under any circumstance be trusted, including this eresh_cloudy. Have a look at this website which uncovers every mystery of the Talmud including a full English translation of its anti-gentile racist propaganda:

http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/gentile.html

"Rabbi David Bar-Chayim on Gentiles

The Yeshivat Mercaz HaRav Kook is one of the largest Talmud colleges in Israel. (1 It was founded in 1924 by Rabbi Abraham Yitchak Kook (1865-1935), the First Chief Rabbi of Eretz Yisrael. A dozen years ago, one of the scholars at the school, Rabbi David Bar-Chayim, published the study, The Jews Are Called "Man".

Daat Emet ("True Knowledge") has made Rabbi Bar-Chayim's study available on the Internet, accompanied by its own "Foreword."*(14) The Bar-Chayim's complete study consists of five parts.*(15) In his Introduction, Rabbi Bar-Chayim refutes the notion that Jews and Gentiles are equal.

As will be further clarified, this outlook [that all human beings, Jew and Gentile, are equal] completely contradicts the Torah of Moses, and stems from an absolute lack of knowledge, permeated with foreign Western "values."

— Rabbi Bar-Chayim (15)

Bar-Chayim's analysis of Jewish law on Gentiles cites Talmud law and rabbinical sources, and refutes opposing teachings. Israel National Radio calls Rabbi Bar-Chayim "one of Israel's Leading Torah Scholars." (18) Rabbi Bar-Chayim now serves as head of the Makhon Ben Yishai Institute for Torah Research.

Talmud Believers Agree with Talmud Critics

Contrary to the statements of ADL, Rabbi Bar-Chayim and many other Jewish clerics are personally certain about — and comfortable with — an Orthodox interpretation of the Talmud. That interpretation reads just as clearly in Hebrew as it does in English: Only Jews are men with the full rights of men; Gentiles are less than men, morally and legally. Rabbi Bar-Chayim quotes the First Chief Rabbi of Eretz Yisrael, Rabbi Abraham Isaac HaCohen Kook:

In the book "Orot," Orot Yisrael chapter 5, article 10 (page 156), Rabbi Kook wrote: "The difference between the Jewish soul, in all its independence, inner desires, longings, character and standing, and the soul of all the Gentiles, on all of their levels, is greater and deeper than the difference between the soul of a man and the soul of an animal, for the difference in the latter case is one of quantity, while the difference in the first case is one of essential quality."

— Rabbi Bar-Chayim, quoting Rabbi Kook (15) (emphasis in original)

Thus, on the subject of the status of Gentiles as seen in Jewish Scripture, Rabbis Bar-Chayim and Kook agree with Elizabeth Dilling and other Gentile critics of the Talmud. The ADL does no one a service by misrepresenting Jewish doctrine and denying impeccable Jewish scholarship.

It is also clear that these Orthodox views of Jewish doctrine are not merely discarded anachronisms or isolated phenomena, as the ADL represents. Indeed, how can the passage of time or the fashions of men put aside the Word of God? Only when Jews move away from Judaism do they abandon this fundamental doctrine of Judaism and become the egalitarians pictured by the ADL. As Rabbi Bar-Chayim writes in his conclusion:

It is clear to every Jew who accepts the Torah as G-d's word from Sinai, obligatory and valid for all generations, that it is impossible to introduce "compromises" or "renovations" into it. Any attempt to bypass or ignore certain things will not succeed. Perhaps one may view the aforementioned Halachic laws as an expression of racism; another may see in them baseless hate towards any Gentile. However, for the Jew who is devoted to the Torah as it is, this is the reality and the living path which has been set for the Jewish nation by the word of G-d.

— Rabbi Bar-Chayim (2"

also....

"Co-existence?

What does the future hold? Can the Jews ever co-exist with the rest of humanity? The answer is "yes," provided the rest of humanity accepts the role designed for them by Jewish leadership. If Gentiles do not accept enslavement, there will be conflict. Perhaps this is what Theodore Herzl was looking at when he concluded:

The solution is Exodus, the gathering together of the people out of dispersion — their concentration in a land of their own, under their own government, responsible to themselves.

— Theodore Herzl"

so for all you non-jewish lemmings, if you dont mind being a slave then carry on listening to the jews because thats what they want for you. If you do object to slavery, and you do object to their bigoted war-mongering opinions, and you do object to the treatment of Palestinians in Palestine, and you do object to the evil lies and criminality of jews on a day-to-day basis, then start ostrasising them from your respective communities and under no circumstances listen to them, or aid them in any way. In fact bring as many to justice as you possible can.

It's often said that jews never do any work, they let everybody else do the work and they try to cream off the profits. Its also said that jews never fight their own wars, just like in Iraq at the moment, they need the Americans to fight it for them, typical parasitic cowards.

....but one day justice will be served.

I have to say that this is jibberish, I cant understand what your trying to say. You asked a question of me concerning your nationality, and you asked with reference to your 14 nationality DNA' sources - what nationality you are?

I cannot answer this question, unless you tell me which 14 nationalities you claim to have DNA from, can I? Youv'e mentioned Indo-European, but be a bit more specific.

as an analogy to your predicament, I have over 14 CD's in my collection, now you tell me what genre of music I prefer listening to you?

I have a Ph.D. in Computational Design ( a subject of Computer Science and AI for all you numbskulls out their ) and all I can say is that the level of intelligent enquiry and reasoning skills of people on this site is very poor.

Eye witness testimony is as valid a form of proof as any in any legitimate court of law. It's also the basis of most of history. How do we know Alexander the Great existed? People referred to him existing. How do we know George Washington existed? People saw him and spoke to him and then wrote it down. Eye witness account is so far from being dismissable as to be the entire matter of which history is made.

Furthermore, the eye witness testimony in this case is not only all against you, it is overwhelmingly so. If a thousand people all agree, without any obvious common motive and goal (and don't say some Zionist conspiracy, because most of the witnesses we have were not Jewish), that something happened, it becomes historical gospel, unquestionable. We have for the Holocaust many, many thousands.

I will prove to you with undeniable, overwhelming, and non-Human evidence that the Holocaust happened when you prove to me the American Revolutionary War happened with the same.

Supposition isn't a form of evidence that stands up to eye witness testimony in a court of law.

Will you listen to yourself? First of all, using Nazi records as the whole of the truth has a very fundamental and gaping flaw with it. Even aside from this issue, look at the numbers you fucking quote;

403,713 total dead (which is not a reasonable number to have possibly died in that period if they were not either committing mass executions you're attempting to deny, or flat-out starving them; the latter being even worse than the former).

73,137 dead at Auschwitz

38,031 dead Jews at Auschwitz

38,031 dead Jews total


Yeah, so, maybe you're not used to actually thinking about what you're saying, but you've just claimed no Jew died anywhere in the Holocaust except for at Auschwitz, although there by unhappy chance they made up over fifty percent of the casualties.

Listen to the things you are about to say before you say them. If they do not hang together, immediately cease.

I dont have to give you anything, the burden of proof is on YOU and your side to come up with the facts. Your the ones claiming genocidal murder and yet all youv'e got to offer as evidence so far is pictures of hair, clothes and naked emaciated bodies, rubbish. My Ph.D. advisory board would of said if I provided such a thesis, 'poppycock', 'hearsay', 'toilet paper' and 'not worthy of a Ph.D.'

YOU NEED TO PROVIDE PROOF, AND NOT PROPAGANDA.