I must say in these difficult times.... not only for the American... I'm extremly happy to see the world being in sorrow together... the way I see it... this wasn't attack on the Americans, the NATO, FREEDOM, or any specific religion, it was an attack on all humains... no matter race, religion, your past, because think about it, there wasn't one race, one religion in those building, there were people from all over the world who died. Sure I may be CANADIAN.... and I'm very proud of this, I'm proud of my country but I feel pain for all the canadians that were killed, as well do I feel pain for all the others that were killed just because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Also think about all those people who left in just in time for say a smoking break, or those who were late for work that were spared of this tragedy, thousands were killed..... but millions all over the world were touched. The only sad thing is that this isn't over.... it is long from over we still have to put an end to this... we have to find many missing people... and we have to get back to living our lifes again... we can't fear to fly in a plane forever, we can't fear to go in a tall building, we have to show strength and continue to live life like we did before.... but never forget those who were killed innocently and those who had put hours of work to try to save as many as possible.

Also I would like to say one more thing to this.... it is easier to get passed this when you don't know anyone who was touched by this, when all thess people who died don't have a face... I know this because I didn't have a face to put on anyone.... until a couple of days laters when the guy who won "Murder in Smalltown X" Angel was killed... he was a fireman who enter the building and it collasped on him. That is when it hit me the hardest, when I was finally able to put a face on someone who had died in this tragedy.

It took this much for them to realise that terrorists=bad.

"Those damn Canadians...with their beady little eyes and flapping heads!!"

Sorry...I just had to say it. Anyways, I know what you mean about what you wrote. I think this is a new beginning for the world. It's sad about all who were killed, but I do believe a great new beginning will come from it. As they say, "You gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet." Anyways, the pain will end with peace, hopefully.

First you might notice that I took the time and effort to correct your humains error.


1. Explain exactly how these "times" are difficult?
2. The world is being in sorrow together..? When we used to bomb citizens as well as military positions in all of those other countries, when we blew up those two poor cities in Japan at the end of WWII? Isn't it just neat that the "world is in sorrow" now? When us, the people who deserved what we got, were finally hit by someone who wanted to act as barbaric as us? SOMEONE WHO WE HELPED TO TEACH HOW TO DO THESE TYPES OF THINGS? Don't be happy, instead just laugh.
3. This was NOT an attack on all humans, it was in fact an attack on our pitiful, nearly tyrannical *sp* government which is in fact pursuading us without our even realizing it that we "have power and freedom", when in fact they can just declare martial law whenever they want and do what they wish with us.

you can say we deserve it...but... i wouldn't want it to happen to as the fact that someone i knew what in there. so it really shouldn't happen to anyone at all. and technically.... i think we have the right to revolt... if there's enough of us...something like that but then doesn't everyone..

I guess it's fun to just say stuff without thinking about it.

Am i to draw from your insanely skewed argument that we deserved to have the twin towers and a chunk of the pentagon destroyed by our own planes as retribution for the bombing of Japan in WWII?

Hi, um, two completely different situations, ya see, we were at WAR with Japan, cuz they like, mercilessly bombed our naval base n stuff? Granted what we did to Japan was rather excessive, but that was an act of war. One might theorize that in some skewed way, we deserved it because of our failure to support palestine in their unfortunate struggle with Israeli occupation, but then you'd just be a racist assuming that all middle eastern countries are the same, as palestine had nothing to do with the attack.

The "world is in sorrow" because the fucking World Trade Center, a zenith of international commerce and relation, not just for america (hence, World) was DESTROYED. And so were thousands of civilians to go along with it so it's not completely symbolic.

Our government may have our flaws, but not so much that we "deserved" this. I doubt any of the people flying to california to see friends and loved ones "deserved" this. I doubt anyone in the WTC or the Pentagon that day "deserved" this. I doubt my friend's parents who were on that flight from dulles "deserved" this.

Further, i'd like you to quote your sources and tell me when and where the United States Government has declared Martial Law and the detremental effects thereof. Do you even know?

Think before you fucking speak Billy Badass, A national crisis is NOT the format for your impotent posturing.

The world is in sorrow over something unimportant, the destruction of two buildings which are just symbols of commerce *Which will only truly suffer if the companies and the people start to act retarded*

The thing about WWII, if you had read more carefully, was pertaining to how we are "in sorrow" over the deaths of whatever the number is now of the people killed by the so called terrorists, while we bombed multiple innocents during WWII with our mighty powerful experimental weapons that caused that whole fallout shit, which in turn killed more people most probably.



Also our government, I do believe, has yet to declare martial law, but I'm not stating that they have, I'm stating that what will happen if they do it?


Besides that, we call these people terrorists, our government says that we will not back any form of terrorism, and yet we back that alliance shit, we back our own agents on the field who most probably plant some bombs here and there, and we have been giving money over to terrorists for a long time.


*this took me so long to write since I've been busy building on a MUD, don't expect an immediate response.*

HEHEH..

if the 2 buildings fell down with out killing anyone.. I'd feel sorrow.. but we are not talking about 2 buildings.. we are talking about almost 7000 people.. plus the fear all over the world of terrorists.. no one is safe right now..

The WW2 bombing was I dont know.. 5 decades ago.. this is a new generation of people and I'm sure we wont do that again.. plus we were at war we didnt just feel like bombing em..

We are supporting the nothern alliance.. Who FYI are part of the government the Taliban dethroned. The True govt. of afghanistan is being supported against asshole who cut women up and recruit 13 year olds for their battle.. ass holes who would rather pay a million dollars to destroy the WTC rather than help afghans to feed themselves...

Suddenly people think its cool to diss their own country.

its ur turn.

Sun Tzu's Art of War: Know your enemy and Know yourself and a thousand victories will be yours.
America: Average American before September 11th didn't know the current info about Bin Ladin, nor would the average American know more then what was taught in history class in school.
Bin Ladin: Studied American history, from the revolution to today, now whats the key word for victory here? guerrilla warfare, and how does it give you victory? 1776 A bunch of rebels choose to fight an empire, what'd they use? guerrilla tactics, the 60's and 70's, Vietnam, a mighty country tries to keep a smaller one from being invaded and taken over by its former northern half, how'd we lose that one? Guerrilla tactics and popular support here, we wore the British down to the point where victory wasn't worth it and the colonies didn't matter, Vietnam wore us down till we said screw the little country, Bin Ladin is attempting to wear us down to the point of giving into his demands. So my point is (yes i know what your thinking, FUCKING FINALLY YOU DIPSHIT!) there is but 2 possibilities you can be sure in this new war, 1st, we get to bin ladin, destroy his network, and end the threat or however its spelled, 2nd, this war goes on forever until popular support here swings toward end it now.
and lastly (yes i know now its UGH HURRY UP ASSHOLE!)
the one thing that can be a possibility but i doubt it, is some other country gets its panties in a wad and attacks us, then we attack them, then they bring in their friends, then we bring in ours. henceforth known as World War. that's the only time world war seems possible, so don't worry, unless you wake up one day to see so and so has declared war on the USA and brought in their allies, the above 2 are the only possibilities.

*Strangly the quote thing didn't work.. damn that's annoying*

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Unimportant. Yeah. What part of "6000 American Civilians killed in an unprovoked terrorist attack" is confusing to you?
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Unprovoked eh? Excuse me.. but didn't we attempt to take down Bin Laden in the past? AND WE FAILED? Hell, I'd be pissed if someone tried to take me down. Besides the fact that 6000 "American Civilians" were killed doesn't even begin to tug at my "heart strings" since I am above the need to cry over unimportant things such as other people, due to the fact that WE ARE ALL GOING TO FREAKING DIE ANYWAYS!

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So, lemme get this straight just so we're on the same page here... because more people died when we nuked japan WHILE WE WERE AT WAR WITH THEM than did in NY and DC when terrorists attacked us with our own passenger planes DURING PEACE TIME, we shouldn't feel sorrow? Do YOU even know what you're talking about?
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We are, and we will NEVER be in a state of peace. We will though be in a state of constant watch, since of course we are ALWAYS doing stuff on foreign soils that we shouldn't be doing, and that would probably start the next world war. Anyone who even thinks that we were in a "state of peace" is just blind to the fact that our country is completely and utterly constantly running black ops right beneath our noses.

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What WILL happen? What will happen if they require everyone to wear mutton-chop sideburns? both are equally likely. Stop spitting buzz words and catchphrases like "martial law" and make a damn point.
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Perhaps the point is that when they do declare Martial Law, or something akin to that, then we will quickly realize just how pitiful the freedom is that we are constantly being given, since if we go outside of the guidelines set before us now then they will of course punish us. This includes doing things that would normally be considered allowable under "Freedom of Religion", except of course for the fact that there are laws against "Animal Cruelty" and "Murder".

With Martial Law imposed upon us, they would be able to freely do what they have secretly been doing, controlling us.

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Sept 11: Someone sneaks into your house while you're sleeping, takes a knife out of the kitchen and stabs you to death.
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For someone who's trying to act highly intelligent you seem to be forgoing the fact that they didn't "sneak" into the "house" at all. We knew they existed within America, although not specifically where. We knew that they were going to do something (The message from Bin Laden?). AND WE KNEW THAT IT COULD FREAKING HAPPEN THANKS TO A GENIUS WHO KNOWS HOW TO WRITE GOOD BOOKS!

Okay, I'm not about to get involved in this debate - Alliance is handling it with his usual style *cheers Alliance* However, I have to point out to JP that while we're all going to "Freaking Die" most of us don't have any desire to do it that way, or that suddenly. I for one would like to do a hell of a lot more living, before I go... I have friends and family to love and enjoy, I've got things to do, and places to see, before I die. Thousands of people lost their right to do this because of a vicious and unexpected attack.

Whatever you have against this country - if you can't feel badly for all the people who died that day, whether in the initial attack, or when trying to save the people trapped - then you really need to work on your priorities... not to mention your humanity

Kat

Hopefully it won't give me that "You aren't logged in shit" again.

<B>Whatever you have against this country - if you can't feel badly for all the people who died that day, whether in the initial attack, or when trying to save the people trapped - then you really need to work on your priorities... not to mention your humanity </B>

And the demon said
Lest thine thoughts range
Lest thy heart stray
I shall have thee

But in response the man said
My heart is gone
For I need not
Thee emotions drowning others

<B>Right, so tell me something about Area 51, Mulder. </B>

Okay... in 1995/1996 Area 51 actually did not exist, according to the government. Forget the fact that people took pictures of it, ignore the planes taking off from it, and ignore the fact that military personnel stand at the ready to shoot anyone who steps onto the land nearby it under the governments ownership... IT DIDN'T EXIST. That didn't stop the government from buying more land about it so people couldn't see it as well as they could before. If you want my personal opinion though... I would have to say that Area 51 is nothing more then a ploy to make us ignore the fact that there was an experimental hydrofoil that was being worked on, and witnessed by many people, nearby the infamous Bermuda Triangle... plus most probably many other things. Spiffy ain't it?

<B>Gee, you mean like breaking the law? Those nazi bastards aren't going to let us break the law anymore. Fuck me you're right! Christ, we may not have the best government in the world or... oh wait, yes we do. Next! </B>

Well ain't it just a kick in the pants that
1. Governmental officials are doing "illegal" things all the time and they don't get in all that much trouble, except of course if the government wants us to ignore something else that is occuring.
2. Diplomats have "diplomatic immunity", which means they could go up to someone, shoot them in the head, and then walk away while many people witness what happened... and nothing could be done to them.
3. If I so much as smoke a cig *which I won't, I hate them* in a public place in my county, I will receive a hefty fine... or if I was say... muslim or some other religion from thereabouts, then I would be persecuted as of 9/11 thanks to the infamous retardedness of many a people, INCLUDING police officers.

<B>You keep throwing around buzzwords without actually making a point. Tell me why you think martial law would be imposed in the country and i'll respond. The government is as close to imposing martial law as we are being invaded by France. DEFINE damn you! </B>

Since it has never been done before, then we don't really know how close we are to having it done to us are we? Especially when someone could go and buy just about every politician in D.C., and then have them all work together to try and get Martial Law happening.

<B>What message from bin Laden? The one we got a few days ago?</B>

Perhaps it's the one that was talked about for a few seconds on the news a day or so after the incident, that stated that the White House had received a letter a week or so before 9/11 that stated that on a day which resembled the emergency number *this isn't the exact wording* then something would happen, and it was signed by Bin Laden.

Seeing as Mr. Laden likes to send letters to his targets BEFORE he does his plan, it would make some sense if our government had acted accordingly and went all super crazy with being protective on 9/11... which they didn't.

<B>Hey, if you want to impress me since you know so much about government black-ops, tell me what's gonna happen next. </B>

They're called Black Ops for a reason buddo.

Damn.. what kept you from responding man?

Anywho... yeah I really am argueing for the sake of argueing.. or however that shit is spelled.. too freaking lazy to check.

In all actuality though I do have to say that I was being honest on my feelings about what has happened.. I just don't give a shit. Our country could be blown to hell and I'd just find it mildly irritating...

By the way... check out my prophecies shit thread.. I want SMART people to look at it, instead of jackasses who don't know what the hell they're talking about.

<B>You've given me inspiration that conspiracy theorism is almost like most religions... there's no need for logic or proof, it's all blind faith that the gov't has special unseen operations that are going on under our noses, yet, are never seen, talked about, or detremental to our daily lives. How intriguing.

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You have never read any Tom Clancy..? If not read it.. good shit..

Ciao for now buddo.