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Evolution is not based on chance. It is based on semi-random mutations, which will only last in a species if it is favorable to their survival. From this another small mutation will come, and if it also makes survival easier, it will probably become dominant. This process of small changes based on SURVIVAL, not chance.

Downwards evolution but not upwards? What the fuck does that mean? I understand it to mean you know evolution exists but because you have the cock of christianity so far up your ass you're making up different forms of a science to justify your own beliefs.


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Evolution is not based on chance. It is based on semi-random mutations, which will only last in a species if it is favorable to their survival. From this another small mutation will come, and if it also makes survival easier, it will probably become dominant. This process of small changes based on SURVIVAL, not chance.

Downwards evolution but not upwards? What the fuck does that mean? I understand it to mean you know evolution exists but because you have the cock of christianity so far up your ass you're making up different forms of a science to justify your own beliefs.


What it means is you can loss something but cant gain something new.

Like you will never grow wings to fly away from your enemys.

You will never grow gills.... go and check yourself in the mirror....Ill wait............................................................................ ...................
...........................Yeah I know its a scary sight for you.
Well did you see any slits in your throat?
Any little nubs growing on your back for wings to start?


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What it means is you can loss something but cant gain something new.

Like you will never grow wings to fly away from your enemys.

You will never grow gills.... go and check yourself in the mirror....Ill wait............................................................................ ...................
...........................Yeah I know its a scary sight for you.
Well did you see any slits in your throat?
Any little nubs growing on your back for wings to start?
You are fairly stupid...... of course you are probably to stupid to realize that.... traits that come forth from evolution take a very long time..... thousands and millions of years..... often when a trait is lost it is because a better one has come along.....
you really need to make up for this huge lack of common knowledge you apparently do not have.....



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You are fairly stupid...... of course you are probably to stupid to realize that.... traits that come forth from evolution take a very long time..... thousands and millions of years..... often when a trait is lost it is because a better one has come along.....
you really need to make up for this huge lack of common knowledge you apparently do not have.....
Teach me oh wise one.

Tell me of these creatures that have parts to them that are slowly adding on.
Do us humans have anything added to us that we cannot use yet? But that we have to wait a million more years for them to develope?
Are people developing a new muscle so they can be a professional ball player, and be like those guys on the PowerAid comercials, jumping 30 feet to dunk a ball.

Is the coachroach developing an armor to protect it from me?
Or is it growing an extra hand on the back to help push him over when he flips on his back? You know if one lands on his back he dies unless he is helped back over.

If an animal has a preditor that is going to wipe it out in 50 or lets say 1000 years, could evolution catch up to it then?

I maybe wrong but evolution was made up by an angery man who hated God. Its an idea started and now people are looking for anything to try and prove it.
So if you believe in that, then I congratulate you for haveing some incredible faith. Maybe you are like me, one of your gifts is faith.


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Teach me oh wise one.

Tell me of these creatures that have parts to them that are slowly adding on.
Do us humans have anything added to us that we cannot use yet? But that we have to wait a million more years for them to develope?
Are people developing a new muscle so they can be a professional ball player, and be like those guys on the PowerAid comercials, jumping 30 feet to dunk a ball.

Is the coachroach developing an armor to protect it from me?
Or is it growing an extra hand on the back to help push him over when he flips on his back? You know if one lands on his back he dies unless he is helped back over.

If an animal has a preditor that is going to wipe it out in 50 or lets say 1000 years, could evolution catch up to it then?

I maybe wrong but evolution was made up by an angery man who hated God. Its an idea started and now people are looking for anything to try and prove it.
So if you believe in that, then I congratulate you for haveing some incredible faith. Maybe you are like me, one of your gifts is faith.
Actually, if there was a nuclear war, the cockroaches would probably be the only survivors.

He was not an angry man, at all. It is a theory that has been supported, time and time again. Read about it.
  
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Actually, if there was a nuclear war, the cockroaches would probably be the only survivors.

He was not an angry man, at all. It is a theory that has been supported, time and time again. Read about it.
I will check the book out, thats the one "origin of species" right?
It has not been proven, if it were then there wouldn't need to be a missing link, and it also wouldn't be called a theory.

Its true the roach would survive, I did xrays and some of the guys shot a roach over and over with no effect.


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I will check the book out, thats the one "origin of species" right?
It has not been proven, if it were then there wouldn't need to be a missing link, and it also wouldn't be called a theory.

Its true the roach would survive, I did xrays and some of the guys shot a roach over and over with no effect.
Darwin wrote 'The Origin of the Species'. Seems like a good place to start.

Evolution is proven. It happens. The theory of Evolution is the part which is constantly being changed, depending upon new evidence.
  
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Can someone explain how Evolution disproves Creationism? Are you guys taking the "7 days" to literally mean 7 24 hour cycles?


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Teach me oh wise one.

Tell me of these creatures that have parts to them that are slowly adding on.
Do us humans have anything added to us that we cannot use yet? But that we have to wait a million more years for them to develope?
Are people developing a new muscle so they can be a professional ball player, and be like those guys on the PowerAid comercials, jumping 30 feet to dunk a ball.

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If an animal has a preditor that is going to wipe it out in 50 or lets say 1000 years, could evolution catch up to it then?

I maybe wrong but evolution was made up by an angery man who hated God. Its an idea started and now people are looking for anything to try and prove it.
So if you believe in that, then I congratulate you for haveing some incredible faith. Maybe you are like me, one of your gifts is faith.

Dyshade I thought I asked for your wonderfull wisdom here?
Your oh so colorfull language of words that makes everyones heart full of marry.
Guide us into all forms of name calling, and the arts of manipulation, you wonderfull teacher.
With your style, I am amazed that everyone doesn't bow at your feet.

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Can someone explain how Evolution disproves Creationism? Are you guys taking the "7 days" to literally mean 7 24 hour cycles?

I am going to do some research tomorrow, and see the different kinds of theory on evolution.
But if they say man came from monkeys then that is where Christianity will divide itself from evolution.
But some are saying something about adapting, and not so much mutation.


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Can someone explain how Evolution disproves Creationism? Are you guys taking the "7 days" to literally mean 7 24 hour cycles?
Sure... it says that God created all life that walks on the earth.... if evolution exists... which it does.... it disproves the theory that he created everything.... easy..... and no i have had the "7"days discussion with many people..... that is taken from Genesis... for a more Authentic tale of how the World came to be read the Enuma Elish.... it also explains the seven days.....



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But what if Evolution is how God intended to create everything?


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"I maybe wrong but evolution was made up by an angery man who hated God"

You are so very stupid.


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"I maybe wrong but evolution was made up by an angery man who hated God"

You are so very stupid.
and you are so very mean! however intelligent you are...



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But what if Evolution is how God intended to create everything?
Why would he do that... string me an argument as to why he would go out of his way to make his "creation" appear as if it evolved???? this is doing nothing more than complicating the matter at hand to dismiss evolution.... if you agree that evolution exists than it stands that you disagree that the universe was created.... that is your choice yet it is a choice... it cannot be both....

And none of those "do you believe we came from monkeys" questions.. those are childish.... no... we did not come from monkeys.... we probably came from a species that was akin to them as we are.... though I am more of the Sumerian belief that we were created.... WE were not the universe..... and even than we were not created from mud.... though that is an evolutional factor..... for primary life to have formed.....
I am of the mind that a greater lifeform.. an alien if you will.. or aliens... came here and genetically engineered us..... scoff if you will yet the Sumerians have tales of such.....



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Sure, that was mean if you care more about obvious offences. Saying evolution is a dream Darwin had because he hates god and offering no argument or proof or anything else insults scientists around the world, years of research, teachers, philosophers, etc. while saying Light is stupid only insults Light.


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well since evolution does not mean we came from monkeys...maybe there's something to it...but I still like the concept of external interference:p



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well since evolution does not mean we came from monkeys...maybe there's something to it...but I still like the concept of external interference:p
Yep, humanity has always clung desperatly to the idea that we are superior.


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i'm woman...that's superior enough



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