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Castration as means to curb molestation and dead-beats ? - 10-02-06



This is legal in 9 states for now and more are in line to implement the laws but are meeting opposition from voters.

I have no problem with it as long as it is for repeat child molesters and repeat dead beat dads who refuse to man up but keep reproducing affecting my bottom line i.e. Tax dollars.

Problem is someone will always test the law and try to convict a one time offender under these laws. Also a seventeen year old sleeping with a eighteen year old is child molestation but to a lesser degree and should not carry such harsh penalties.

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10-02-06

I can see it for repeat molestors and rapists, but dead beat dads? That seems kinda extreme. And what about states who are a bit........ shall we say over-zealous about child support? If the states are making the laws, whats to stop them from adding that same zeal to their version of the law?
  
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10-02-06

if theyre going to castrate dead beat dads then the childs mother should also have to give up her reproductive rights.
  
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10-02-06

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I can see it for repeat molestors and rapists, but dead beat dads? That seems kinda extreme. And what about states who are a bit........ shall we say over-zealous about child support? If the states are making the laws, whats to stop them from adding that same zeal to their version of the law?

Kinda extreme ?

I know a real pc of work who knocked up my wifes sister , he bails and does it to 7 others . This "kid" has 8 kids from different girls and he's only 25 yrs old . He dosent pay any child support and evades the law .

Guess who pays for these dead-beats so they can go have fun railing every chick in sight ...........you do and I do .

I say take the fun out of it .

P.S. Women should also be held accountable for the same reasons i.e. crack babies and everything else .


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10-02-06

I'm sorry, but I pay for my kid and my kid alone right now. As for this 25 year old you are talking about, what does cutting the guys nuts off have to do with money, besides it cost us to have it done? Its like suspending a driver's liscence for not paying child support, whats that got to do with anything. Hell logic would dictate it would make things harder, cause the guy wouldn't be able to get jobs, and there for would have no money to pay anyways, and in the end it doesn't work. Whats sad is that thanks to tax information, it can become very easy to track these dead beat dads, hell when a mother files for a child support increase, it is based off of the w-2 information at the father's place of employment. Cutting the guys nuts off ain't gonna work in the end. We just need a better way to track them. And I also think that better laws need to be made for the dad's who do pay their support, cause they end up getting fucked 9 times out of 10 unless they are able to afford legal services
  
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10-02-06

Only for repeat rapists.

Child molestation isn't always rape, so will not be solved with castration. You'll just end up with psychos with no dick and a SHITLOAD of anger. I'd say that is even MORE dangerous for kids. These psychos may think of more brutal ways to torture their victims.


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10-06-06

Its barbaric, its stupid, it will never happen, conversation over.


  
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10-06-06

I think death is a better approach for rapist


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10-07-06

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Its barbaric, its stupid, it will never happen, conversation over.

Shit man , Its already legal in nine states . What the hell are you talking about ?


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10-07-06

I've heard that in America Depo Provera is used on rapists - for women it's a form of contraception, but for men, it deletes their sex drive. I think you call it chemical castration?


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10-07-06

Please list all nine states and links to any factual articles.....



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10-07-06

w3rd...

And I agree, barbaric. Shit happens...get over it.


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10-07-06

castrating someone will not solve a damn thing.... it might make things worse..... guy goes nuts and kills a shitboat of people sort of worse...



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Please list all nine states and links to any factual articles.....
Didnt believe me huh ?



http://lycos.cs.cmu.edu/info/castration--laws.html

Nine states, including Wisconsin, have laws allowing chemical castration for some sex offenders. Chemical castration involves men taking female hormone drugs -- usually Depo-Provera or Depo-Lupron -- to reduce sexual urges. Offenders in Texas, California and Florida can choose surgical removal of the testes instead.


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10-08-06

You still did not list the nine states. Did I ever say that I did not believe you?? No. You should not make assumptions. Your claims put the burden of proof upon your shoulders and I was merely wishing for you to prove your claims irregardless of what I believed.

Personally I think they should just kill them because castration, especially chemical, can be reversed and in some cases can have detrimental psychological effects which may lead to further atrocities. Most often rape is not about sex it is about power and anger.



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10-08-06

Treating the symptom instead of the problem . . . People do that a lot.


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10-08-06

You cannot "cure" pedophelia.

Let me guss I.R. we should have a lengthy discussion with them and we can all express our feelings right? The onyl thing we can do in the case of pedophiles is to make pedophelia a crime with such a heavy fine at the end that it discourages people form doing it as much as it can. Death Penalty or possibly Life in prison works in my opinion. I am sure you disagree though, I am guessing in your mind it would be cruel and unusual, and in order to compensate for violating thier rights all pedophiles get to teach kindergarten from now on.
  
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Dude, no matter what the punishment is, it won't stop a fuckin' thing. With all the punishments we have these days, the crime rate still goes up.


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Dude, no matter what the punishment is, it won't stop a fuckin' thing. With all the punishments we have these days, the crime rate still goes up.
Actually, its been going up because we are more lenient with criminals. Thank the liberals who think that we should "reform" killers instead of punishing them and removing them from society.
  
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