Bullshit. That is bullshit, plain and simple Sixgun, and you know it. This sort of thing happens because many of the "good ol' Americans" in this country, some of which work as airline security personnel, happen to be twisted fucks who enjoy the increased power they have. They take advantage of the situation. There was no reason for that woman to have her breasts fondled and her belly exposed to everyone in that part of the airport. The disallowance of racial profiling had nothing to do with it.

The fellow might as well sue the airline. Other idiots in this country have taken advantage of our fucked legal system and won, and I'd say he has a stronger case than most of those idiots (i.e. the man who won a lawsuit against his neighbor for running over his hand...never mind the fact that he was busy trying to steal his neighbor's hubcaps at the time.)

The PCism so rampant today has everything to do with it.

i heard it was the rightists most recently who were opening up the borders to let alot of cheap labor though.. oh well...

and i said a superior islamic force... the islamic fundamentalists dont pose as a superior islamic force, just a rag tag group of nutters. But youre right the war on terrorism shouldnt be undermined i say 1st we worry about our local terror groups, white supremists and gun nuts out west who are planning and plotting a race war, THEN we worry about securing ourselves some the other terrorists. the RIght is the cause of all these problems though in the 1st place, if they werent so greedy and would let some of the patents on reduced oil technology or alternate fuel source technology that they buy up with thier oil companies we could leave the middle east and focus on feeding our homeless and getting proper care to children growing up in povery in this nation.

Billy's completely right. I think I've mentioned at some point my dad's a lawyer...or was, he's now doing just legal consulting...anyway, he's currently working with these guys who invented an alternate way of drilling for oil. It gets- check this out- three times as much oil from any given well as the currently used technology. That's not three times as much minute for minute, that's three times as much. Current drilling methods only allow about 30% of the oil to be taken from any hole. That means that in all those shut-down rigs in Texas, 70% of the oil is still there. The new method takes 90%. It also produces 15% less air pollutants when burned, and it's only byproduct is clay. But they can't get this technology out, because it would be expensive for the oil companies in the short term, and that would decrease their quarter earnings, and God-forbid they think about anything but their stocks...

Which brings me to why the stock market needs to be done away with. Stupid state-sponsored gambling.

The funny thing is... the Russians fought that Afghani war for many years.... and got thier butts kicked.... the US went in and whupped them in a few months.... that speaks for itself I think.... and that was when the Russians were at thier strongest.....

true but the afghanis were also being backed by the US, training and weapon wise... which came back to bite us in the ass... when we went in it was just them and us, when russia went in it was them and us and then Russia.

It says alot that the Left Wingnuts have taken sides with the Islamic Fundamentalists.

No doubt the Weathermen, SLA, and other Left wing "peace groups" will again start setting off bombs like they did back in the 60's & 70's to undermine the USA.

Oh, but it's never because people get their thrills from touching a pregnant woman in public, or forcing a woman to drink her own breast milk.

I have to side with Neon on that one; while the empire was bad, etc., all of England's power and money, centuries of power, was sold to the US to defend themselves from an enemy.

I'll hold up my hand and remake my point, I do dog the US where I think the system is poor, but only when I think the system is poor I will say. If this comes across as or even ACTUALITY is US bashing then I'm not going to say it isn't because that's the intenition. However, I acknowledge that this could come from a sense of misplaced patriotism.

Typical phrase from the English Explorer CD Ransed

'the problem withg you chaps is that you're all too foreign!'

But Billy, do you not get the strange sense of security knowing that picking a fight with the US isn't a bright idea because the US are undobutedly the biggest players at the moment.

Although in fairness that has made you the biggest target too.

Just as a point of interest, there is a growing movement in the UK (they're not on the web so no link I'm afraid) who thinks that if the UK involves itself in the war on terror its should charge the US for it's assistance. A sort of recouping the losses of lease-loan.

Quite what would happen to the money is anyones guess i doubt it would go to improve this military or makes schools and hospitals better. Probably go into another white elephant like the millenium dome.

Neon

Technically speaking:
They had a woman drink from a container that she claimed to contain breast milk. If the bottle contained poison, then she would not have drank from it.
A woman with a large bulge around her middle could be suicide bomber rather than a pregnant woman.

My point is that the system treats nursing mothers as suspects because they will not use profiling to narrow down the search to those that are likely to be terrorists. That the system treats everyone like terrorists is why we have these asinine incidents.

No, we have these asinine incidents because the people in charge are asses. No matter how desperately you struggle to make it so, Sixgun, "Not assuming all arabs are terrorists" does not equate "molest pregnant women in public".

Security treats everyone like a suspect because to do otherwise would invite charges of "racial profiling".

And standard routine for dealing with suspects is to molest them in public, since when?

if they did that im pretty sure the US would tell the UK to sod off, its not like we need thier actual support, we just dont want to look like tyrants, we need other nations to join the band wagon so we look justified in destroying another nation. im sorry neon but the british arent THAT influential to the US. We just want them to be good boys and say yes when we need them too so everyone else will say, "well hey England is on board with the US, it msut be right."

I read that a female agent did a pat down search. If you have other information, let me know.

Neon,

Billy the Kidd is just a know nothing jerk. Ignore him.

Quite frankly I am embarrassed at his remarks.

Now THATS comedy!