His motivation, though, was not [necessarily] evil. I think the Will - the deciding factor - is in the motivation of the doer and not the perception others have of the actual act. Devils actually want to hurt humans, and their Will is to do evil. Despite what we think of God's actions, from the Christian point of view - his intention (and, as he is perfect, the outcome) of his actions were good.

When my tone is formal, do not misinterpret it as patronising, milord, it is not.

As for your latter part, I doubt this was in reply to me, I recognise little of my own beliefs therein. Devils and Angels are nothing more then souls without a physical body. That is my core belief.

Good idea, sort of, but the very idea of Conscience is that it comes from inside onesself - this, I agree, could be organised Dualisticaly (though I am loath to do so). Devils and Angels (i.e. those of God), however, come from the outside, and are their own individualities (in so far as that goes, although they are of course parts, respectively, of hell and heaven). Furthermore - your seemed deffinition of "guardian angel" appears to be differnt from that used in most of this discussion.

Unfortunately, the idea that everyone has that same over-romanticised and feminised idea of a "guadian angel" as I previously commented upon is of great importance to the validity of discussion in this debate. Your obsrevations are, of course, relevant and it is interesting that you use your terminology so - for in "The Screwtape Latters" Lewis does in fact give that same impression - that both Angels (he never uses this term, although I take it to constitute a fair word for "agents of God") and Devils are inside their "patient's" (a term he uses throughout) head and, as you suggest, the two parts of his conscience. However, he never reffers to either as "guardian angels," and while I can see where you're coming from, I am more inclined to agree with him.

The ends justify the means then?

Quite so, of course. I hope you took it from the :p that I was not offended or serious! ( :p )

In fact, that was directed at you. You say that I am correct in thinking that the entities actions are what cause their alignment as a "good" Angel or an "evil" Devil, therefore - surely you are wrong in saying that "Devils can be Guardian Angels" because the acts of being a Devil and an Angel - by what I percieve of your philosophy - are mutually exclusive.

You have hit the metaphorical nail squarely on the head, comrade Preston. This theme, you might have noticed, runs throughout Christianity and is a common one. The center of their beliefs, in fact, are based around the fact of "Jesus suffering in order to save Us" - i.e. the means (suffering) justify the end (saving).

No problem... I know

And dark and light each have their purposes... A guardian angel that strikes, rather then defends, is that not a demon? To another? But to self?
Think not in pure black and white, even in matters as this. A soul is grey.

I had a reply here...but now the whole thread is on a completely different tangent...oh well...here goes anyway.

*jumps up on soapbox*

I don't believe in guardian angels...I believe in Guardians... angels, demons, spirits, be it what you wish. It is all in our interpretation anyway. My guardian would most likely fall into the 'demon' cathegory, simply due to his outer appearance and general mood. But that doesn't mean I have sold my soul to the Devil and is condemned to hell. It just means my guardian is slightly different from the common lot, the lightbeings spreading happyvibes on everything they touch.

Your guardian looks excactly as you will imagine him look, the physichal body is just a shell to make it easier for you to relate to it. If you wish to see a demon, you will see a demon.

but what if he is not what you want him to look like, more of an "individual" that comforts you when you need it the most...not always there watching and present, but when "things" aren't being nice, he is there whispering words of love and comfort in your mind, holding you in dreams and making you feel that all will be well, your vengeance is his...is he evil simply because he is not of heaven, and he is assigned to do duties, yet in his spare time uses it to soothe and comfort one's soul. even if that's what he wants?

<- is still thinking and drinking

Hmmm I agree with Clear which doesnt give me much left to say...

Then it's not a guardian in the sense I mean. What you're talking about isd a spirit lover, right? That has nothing to do with guardians.

it's a possibility...

Evil is not always exactly that which you may be led to believe it is. The same may be said of Good. Thousands have died so that hundreds could prosper. Is that the act of a Good God. Yet it was the act of God that did destroy thousands. Much that is considered Evil has been spawned from the Greater Good. Just as things that have been considered Good have been spawned by Evil acts.
The distinction lies in Ones perception.

I would have to vote yes. Evil can guard a Mortal Soul from harm which in itself is Good; though the intentions may be Evil.

I didnt believe God is good to begin with, if it even exists. It just did what it wanted and said it was good.Has to keep his image up.

*waddles back onto the forum*

Then that would mean that the lord of hell, satan for a lack of a better term, is still evil.

If they were to truly exist I suppose that they could be...... to whomever they would be guarding they would certainly seem like an Angel.....

it annoys me, to see people try to make excuses to try and get"around" sinning, and evildoing. Like, lying. its not a lie, its just that i did not Choose to share it with you. Thats an excuse, just as a demon being Good is. A demon will approach a human,and to the human, it will be good, becuz it grants wishes of the physical,and matieral Realm. Which it specializes in. IE: Lovelife, wealth,health,anything having to do with the real world,and "shortcuts" through life. Guardian angels give you the knowledge to continue on the road of life, on your own, using your own choices,judgment,and strength.There are No shortcuts in life.

You know I almost think that they could be our guardian angels, because like lets say someone that you know that really likes you but doesn't like other people too well dies and goes to hell....then they come back I think they could be your guardian angel, cause they would want to protect you right??