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Blair buries Britain - 09-11-03

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By GEORGE PASCOE-WATSON
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BRITAIN was read the last rites yesterday — by its own Prime Minister.

Tony Blair vowed to surrender huge swathes of our centuries-old sovereignty to the European Union.

He also ignored overwhelming public opinion by insisting Britons will NOT be allowed a vote on whether the nation should sign up to the new EU constitution.

Mr Blair’s capitulation was revealed in a White Paper presented to the Commons by Foreign Secretary Jack Straw. Tory chief Iain Duncan Smith called it a “white flag”.

Brussels will automatically assume the power to set British laws.

Parliament will only be able to rule when the EU decides it does not want to get involved.

Tony Blair also vowed to sign up to an “escalator clause,” meaning Britain will give up MORE power in the coming years.



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09-11-03

It's something they should do, but it should be done by referendum.
  
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09-11-03

Destroy their own national soveriegnty? Become a mere province of some continental empire?

Thats insane! Like why bother fighting off enemies like the Spanish Armada and the Luftwaffe when they are just going to commit national seppuku?

Though he is a socialist, I was starting to like Tony Blair for being a firm ally and friend to the USA. But this is apalling and I mourn for the passing of what was Great Britain.

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Destroy their own national soveriegnty?
Become a mere province of some continental empire?
What's wrong with that?
  
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09-11-03

What's wrong?

These socialists are destroying a great nation. Thats what is wrong.



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What's wrong with that?

More like, who really cares anymore?



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I don't think they're destroying any nation, just creating a greater one.
  
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09-12-03

Want to build an empire, then go ahead and make one out of the European continent. Nothing but Frogs and socialists there anyway.

But the UK is a real nation that still has alot of potential yet for super power status. Just gotta be rid of the socialists that are destroying everything that was Great Britain. They just got to get the Tories back into power. Rebuild their navy and get Australia and Canada to vote themselves back into the empire.



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Want to build an empire, then go ahead and make one out of the European continent. Nothing but Frogs and socialists there anyway.
Ahh, I see...the UK shouldn't be a part of Europe because Europeans are lesser people.

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But the UK is a real nation that still has alot of potential yet for super power status. Just gotta be rid of the socialists that are destroying everything that was Great Britain. They just got to get the Tories back into power. Rebuild their navy and get Australia and Canada to vote themselves back into the empire.
Hey, why not get the US to vote themselves back in too?

Hmm, interesting that they should rebuild their navy before trying to 'get us to vote ourselves back in.'
  
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09-12-03

Ahh, the conservatives were doing it for years!

Besides we're politically too far up the USA's arse to do anyhting practical anyway.

I say we launch all our nukes in a pre-emptive strike on france. It's the only way to be sure!

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Hey, why not get the US to vote themselves back in too?
Not happening "dude".



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Not happening "dude".
Why's that? Are Limeys lesser people than Yanks?
  
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sounds like it could be going the way of the Amerikan Empire a bit...

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...An EU President and Euro foreign minister will be appointed.

The European Commission ? currently headed by Italian Romano Prodi, who is battling bribery allegations over a telecom deal ? will get its own diplomatic service.

It will have sweeping powers to represent Britain?s interests abroad.


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So you're under the feeling that the US deserves soverniegnty but Canada and Australia do not?? OR that there should be even more superpowers left to mangle the worlds politics?


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09-14-03

Euro-sceptics have been saying for years that various new measures will strip Britain of its sovereignty, but we seem to be doing fine. This new constitution is more or less the same thing, and actually will change very little, merely putting into one document what is already written elsewhere. France and Germany would want more, but Britain would block any proposals for a Foreign Minister etc. anyway.

I'm not a Europhile by any means, and I think that the European apparatus is a disgrace, but I don't think these measures are a big problem. Also, as a rule of thumb, if you find yourself agreeing with Ian Duncan Smith then you're probably wrong.

Btw Sixgun, I assume you realise that if Britain was again a superpower then we would have no need to lick your buttcrack any more, so you would probably be a bit less keen on us.
  
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