The "moderate muslims" are at the same level of Pat Robertson. The muslim fundamentalists are beyond that.

the word assassin was invented by William SHakespeare who was not fond of muslims.

The word assasin comes form Hashasynia or Hashaniey or similar spellings of the same word. AShakespearean 'interpreation' as billy said of an arabic word describing the sect of assasins. A group of either fanatical Shi'ite killers under the rule of the old man of the mountain based in Alamut the eponymous mountain fortress.

Ahh... so you believe that ALL muslims are either "Moderate" or "fundamentalist"...
Maybe your should simply learn the concept WE ARE ALL INDIVIDUALS !!!

Six,.. you talk about 'terrorists' so much;
Define Terrorist.

And continuing on...
Explain and JUSTIFY: State Sponsored Terrorism.

you seem to think you know so much about these topics, I expect a DEFINITION will not be a problem for you at all.

Oh, by the way:

If you would think, you'd realize the glaring fault in this statement. If Saddam had been fascist, then communists would be vehemently opposed to his rule. They are natural enemies, being the opposite end of the political specturm from one another. Just like Hitler purged the communists in Germany, after he framed them for burning the Reichstag.

man, you people are all so hardcore, I love to read the arguments you folks go through, Im not much of a political guy, I do support america, and all that, like 6gun, but I dont participate in thesem because I dont know enough, however you all seem like very inteligient people, that are stubborn to prove your point. I love watching you guys argue

It does lend itself to some interesting intellectual discourse and thought if nothing else.
I just wish that some people could think and question their own ideals.

If you would study your history you would see that Islam did spread peacefully, Islam has historically been open to other religions in there countries since its early days. Some can say Christianity is not a religion of peace, look at its past, European countries forcing people in every land they came to to convert and many being killed if they didn't. Have you even read the Qu'ran? I doubt it, if you had you would see that the Bible is more violent.

Some good points draco714...
its also interesting to note that the Qu'ran predates the bible.
But then what dosent predate the christian bible... considering that nearlly the entire "novel" was re-written in the last 100yrs to reflect the needs of a 'changing society'.

The Qu'ran supports what the prophets said i.e. Abraham, Moses, Isaac, Ishamal, David, Solomon, and Jesus. There are 20 prophets named in the Qu'ran that are from the Bible, amazing since there was not a copy of the Bible in Arabic when the Qu'ran was written. To add to it the Qu'ran has not changed since it was first written, the Jewish and Christian scriptures can not be put into that category. Many early christians such as Paul changed what was really taught to make it easier to convert the pagans. Islam predates the Bible, Islam is the religion of Noah , Abraham, and Isaac who were not Jews. Islam simply means submission to God.

Exactly. But then, there are the extremists who ruin it for everyone, and cause people like Sixgun to stereotype every Islam they meet.

That's right! Most people today don't seem to think of how backward there terms are. If a person who's family happens to be Muslim and that person commits a terrorist act then he is called an Islamic terrorist, change that to someone from a Christian background such as Tim Mcveigh and that terms never applied.

Of course, the most important point to clarify is:
that a person CANNOT be classifed as a "terrorist" until they have actually commited an act of 'terrorism'.
Otherwise they're just somebody with a "differing opinion".

E.g: Sixgun likes to call me a 'communist', but am I ?
Well no - as one would only be a 'communist' upon gaining "membership" of a communist or socialist based Political party.
He may believe, I adopt some 'socialist thoughts' - but does this make me a "communist" ? - No.

Of course the most important point with "apparent terrorists" - how do you seperate a 'Terrorist' from a 'person fighting for National Independence ? - E.g: the IRA.
The UN, never recognised the IRA as "terrorists", they infact saw them as people 'fighting for national liberation', against the English Rule/Opression.

With the way the US is any group that the government does not agree with is a terrorist organization. Terrorism is a matter of opinion most of the time, the oppressed seeking freedom from the oppressers. Of course the issue is much more complicated then that, too many factors to take into account.

Exactly. I said that to Sixgun before - "We don't call McVeigh a Catholic terrorist, do we?"

But he still seems to think that Muslims are more prone to committing acts of terrorism.

He just doesn't get it. I think that he won't even research Islam and it's true principles, because that might make him a terrorist.

Christianity calls for blind faith, Islam requires Muslims to study religion of all types to better understand them. If a Muslim has a question about Islam he is not to be afraid to learn more about it from any source. Most Christian churches preach if you don't understand a principle of the religion you must have faith anyway.

Like Bush said, "You're either 100% with us or against us."

I'll side with Bush when I believe he is making good decisions.

You seem to have forgotten the non-aggression pact between the soviet union and nazi germany.


Anyway, the reds are supporting the muslims only because they are giving the USA a bloody nose. No different than the way we supported the mujahadeen in Afghanistan while they were hurting the soviets.

Terrorism is a strategy of using terror. Kill a few and scare many.

It is a method of war generally used by small groups that have no real military power. War on the cheap.

Interesting how this person describes it as "the oppressed seeking freedon from the oppressors". I always knew that the hippie left were a bunch of Osama lovers.