LOL, sorry JP, i dont agree brothers and sister shosuldnt be allowed ot marry, maybe you can marry yours but i live in the real world where shit like that is illegal. SO is two queers getting hitched.

Segregation was made possible by courts, and now so is gay marriage.. GET IT? Courts? overstepping thier bounds? Activist judges making new laws without the consent of the will of the masses? this is a fucking democracy pal, dont like it? leave.

Uh, actually they aren't overstepping their bounds when they make gay marriages legal.
Amendment 14 of the US Constitution, which applies to every State in the country, allows for it.

What if two straight guys wanted to get married?

Does it matter if he is or not? It's a personal question and the insunuation is unnecessary. One does not have to be gay to oppose limitations put on choice and the freedom to live one's life the way one wishes. You don't have to be gay to oppose.

Sharp!

Wow.

Am I gay...?

Well, perhaps I am in some way gay, but overall I'm heterosexual. If you knew anything about me, you'd know that without even having to ask.

In what way are you gay?
Nobody really knows how gay or non-gay they are until they encounter a point in their life wherein they might learn this.

Currently I have no gay tendencies, or rather no urges to sleep with, have sexual relations with, or even fondle anyone of the same gender as I.

Currently dealt with my present condition, yes.
However I used currently due to the uncertainity that exists in the future.
My past is quite simply piss awful, and since I avoid trying to go along the "pity me" route I prefer not to talk of it.

what if 10 striaght guys wanted to get married all to each other?

hmmm not sure....what do you think?

No one said open-mindedness is a synonym for "pro-queer marriages". You're talking out of your ass again. The very fact that you use phrases like "pro-queer" shows how idiotic you really are.

I've been thinking about this actually....

Marriage by it's very definition is a religious notion. Therefore as it's a religious notion, only those religions which have marriage should be allowed to pronounce people married under the rules of their religion.

This means that anti-homosexual religions such as christianity are perfectly entitled to say, under their religion what does and doesn't constitute a marriage. Therefore 2(+) men cannot constitute a christian marriage. SO gay men cannot benefit from the benefits of a christian marriage.

However, Jewish and Muslim marriages also have differing rules on the concepts of marriage, yet are legitimately also allowed to acquire marriage benefits.

Now what you need is an organised religion which allows gay marriages and under European Directive on Human Rights (In the UK this is enforced by the Human Rights Act 2000) and under the US 1st Ammendment, there is a constitutional human right to provide parity of all religions and free expression of their tennants faiths and beleifs.

Neon

Not true. My parents were married by the mayor of my mother's home town since they were of two different religions at the time. Marriage, which I agree was originally religious, and still is to a point, has morphed into a secular entity. I think it's fine for any religion to refuse anyone they want to marry, but I do not think government official should be allowed to.

Then if marriage is a secular thing, why not just increase the benefits of civil unions to equal those of religious marriage so both homosexuals AND seculars can get married with no religious overtones whatsoever?

Why insist on marriage, when civil unions can be just as good and just as beneficial?

My problem with that, is that many years ago with determined with Brown vs. Board of Education that separate is never equal. We cannot have separate institutions and have them be supposedly equal.

I think if history has taught us anything it's that the way people VIEW homosexuality is learned and influenced by the culture. According to you, in the very puritanical america of the early 20th century, there really shouldn't have been any homosexuality because it was considered so vile and looked down upon. But even in times when homosexuality would get you in jail or even killed, there have been homosexuals- how do you explain that?

one for all the rabid homophobes out there:

from: http://www.edwindecker.com/rants/agenda.html

The Homosexual Agenda
(Exclusive! Ulterior motives of the homosexual community uncovered!)

What is this mysterious homosexual agenda we all keep hearing about? What is this notion that the ongoing crusade for gay rights is really just a front for some ulterior political agenda? Is it a formal decree? Or just some unconscious shared ambition? Of course, no one could actually define the agenda - except to say that it is wicked and foul and smells like ass.

These are the questions we here at the investigative branch of Edwindecker.com have been asking ourselves. So, last month we placed an undercover agent inside the offices of GLAAD (Gay and Lesbian Alliance against Defamation). It was inside GLAAD where our operative uncovered a classified, departmental memo and -- at great peril to his life - copied and brought it to our offices.

That memo, composed and delivered some 17 years ago, is a complete outlay of the true intentions of the homosexual community and proof of the existence of a Homosexual Agenda. Here now, published for the first time, is that very memo. . .

The Homosexual Agenda
Memo From Dan Silverman - GLAAD co-Chairperson
November 8, 1986

Mission Statement: America today. Tomorrow -- the world.

Preamble: All U.S. homo personnel are hereby directed to create fear, confusion, and chaos -- thus creating a favorable climate for nationwide domination. This can be done in many ways:

Provisions and Recommendations:
1) Infiltrate Educational/Recreational System: All homo personnel should take positions as teachers, principals, coaches, Boy Scout/Girl Scout Leaders etc. Personnel should use the educational system to teach boys how to prance about like a princess and girls how to shoot nine-ball.

2) Infiltrate Pop Music: Masculine agents are hereby directed to form bad-ass hard rock bands with bad-ass macho band names like Judas Christ, and wear leather and studs, and be all hard rock and shit, and get millions of adolescent, sexually-malleable, boys to worship you for your ability to rock all hard and shit, and then . . . drop the Gay-bomb on them by abruptly publicizing the fact that you are a raging hose-smoker.

Infiltrate Art: Create paintings and statues of strikingly beautiful Greek and Roman men standing contraposto, all naked and queer-baity, with smooth, hairless, asscheeks, and sexually-charged Greco-Roman names like, "Felatus the Turgid!"

4) Infiltrate Marriage: Gay and lesbian agents should take the vows of matrimony whenever possible -- thus contaminating the divine purity of the institution of marriage with our disgusting, filthy, immoral selves.

5) Adopt: Married and/or unmarried gay couples should adopt as many children as possible. Place them on a diet of Queer's milk and strained fagberries. Also, throw drug-infested, ritualistic, Tupperware orgies in their presence.

6) Infiltrate the Military: Contaminate barracks' water supply with massive doses of gay-powder and "accidentally" bump penises in the shower - instantly changing straight soldiers into Grand Exalted Warriors for the Army of Gay.

7) Analingus - The Musical.

8) Infiltrate the White House: Become President of the United States. Replace current military motto of, "Don't ask to tell," with new, improved motto -- "Go gay now, ask me how." Also, travel the world to promote the American gay agenda, ending the tour in Berlin; where, like Kennedy before you, you will shout from the podium, "Ich bein ein arschficker*" (I am cream puff), for all the world to hear.

Conclusion: If we act with fervor and diligence, we should gain control of the world by 2006. Then we can start building bathhouses on the moon. Please shred this document immediately after reading. Thank you. "Heil Halford!"

Dan Silverman,
GLAAD, co-Chairperson.

Final Thoughts from the Columnist: Do you see what can happen when homosexuality goes unchecked? And to think, all along, we thought they were only seeking the right to live without being ridiculed, tortured and/or alienated. Turns out there is an ulterior homosexual agenda - and, like a drippy tube of anal lube, the gay evil oozes over our culture. Oh-Boy! Better order more pink armbands; better knock down some doors and drag out some pansies; better act now -- before it's too late.

Next week: "Kill Whitey and Fuck Their Bitches" -- The Negro Memo



EJD
12/2002

*"Ich bein ein Arschficker": (German for "I am Assfucker").
True Story: The Nazi's made gay prisoners wear armbands marked with the letter "A" for arschficker.

That's funny as hell.

ssliasil would take it seriously