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Originally Posted by neonwraith It has in the UK, as a whole. There are insurgents, but they are a minority. There is tension and racial hatred, but there is not the same huge anti-white anti-black feelings the US has
there is of course tensions and the black community and the asian communities seem to be the ones clashing in the UK at the moment.
but as a whole, incidents like the Million man march don't occur in the UK.
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Either way you put it, Billy is a racist pig of whom I don't have a "crush" on, but rather, prefer crushing. ^_^
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Originally Posted by neonwraith It has in the UK, as a whole. There are insurgents, but they are a minority. There is tension and racial hatred, but there is not the same huge anti-white anti-black feelings the US has
there is of course tensions and the black community and the asian communities seem to be the ones clashing in the UK at the moment.
but as a whole, incidents like the Million man march don't occur in the UK.
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Huge anti-white anti-black feelings? We don't riot in the streets over potatoes, dude. And yes, I'd be interested to know the percentages myself. In Memory of the Busby Babes :
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra...Kingdom_census
It's the most accurate if slightly out of date, but the census is only down evey 10 years.
Ethnicity
White: 90.9%
Indian: 2.1%
Pakistani: 1.4%
Mixed: 1.4%
Black Caribbean: 1.1%
Black African: 0.9%
Chinese: 0.4%
Black Other: 0.2%
Religion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States
White -69%
Hispanics 13%
African american 12%
Asian Americans 4%
Indigenous peoples 1%
You theory about divergent Ethnicty may have some creedance......But London, which has out largest ethnically divergent poulation, seems to have little such trouble..... of course cosy censorship may play a part.
institutionalised racism is still also a serious issue.
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Originally Posted by Wicked Lady Huge anti-white anti-black feelings? We don't riot in the streets over potatoes, dude. And yes, I'd be interested to know the percentages myself. | What, the only potato riots were the Irish about 200 years ago and if you knew much about those, you'll realsie that was heavily under the influence of the Catholic Church which banned congress and trade for readilly available food products with heathens such as the protestant English crown (as in the state as opposed to the Monarchy by this time).
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Originally Posted by neonwraith What, the only potato riots were the Irish about 200 years ago and if you knew much about those, you'll realsie that was heavily under the influence of the Catholic Church which banned congress and trade for readilly available food products with heathens such as the protestant English crown (as in the state as opposed to the Monarchy by this time).
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Are you retarded? Seriously. I'm asking. Where did you decide to go off on a completely unrelated topic about the Irish potato famine?
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Originally Posted by neonwraith What, the only potato riots were the Irish about 200 years ago and if you knew much about those, you'll realsie that was heavily under the influence of the Catholic Church which banned congress and trade for readilly available food products with heathens such as the protestant English crown (as in the state as opposed to the Monarchy by this time).
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Actually the Potato famine was caused by the "little ice age" and the combination of evil English landlords and British control of Ireland. See the Irish also had large flocks of sheep and barley grain and other food sources that were all being taken by the English to fund thier wars in India and elsewhere.
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As someone who lived in the UK for four years, I can assure you that racial tensions and violence in the UK isn't as rosy a picture as the English would have you believe. They have their issues but it's focused more on the Asians than on the blacks. If there's anything that i've learned from living in or visiting many different countries is that every country has their nigger. When I was in Germany it was the Turks. When I was in the middle east, it was the Phillipino's. No place is immune to the negative side of humanity, no place. | |
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Originally Posted by wysiwyg As someone who lived in the UK for four years, I can assure you that racial tensions and violence in the UK isn't as rosy a picture as the English would have you believe. They have their issues but it's focused more on the Asians than on the blacks. If there's anything that i've learned from living in or visiting many different countries is that every country has their nigger. When I was in Germany it was the Turks. When I was in the middle east, it was the Phillipino's. No place is immune to the negative side of humanity, no place. | yeah and they are also 90% white too... as opposed to the US which is less than 70% white. Racial tension here would be that much more intense because we are that much more integrated. | |
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Originally Posted by Billy the Kidd yeah and they are also 90% white too... as opposed to the US which is less than 70% white. Racial tension here would be that much more intense because we are that much more integrated. | Absolutely. | |
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Originally Posted by Wicked Lady Are you retarded? Seriously. I'm asking. Where did you decide to go off on a completely unrelated topic about the Irish potato famine?
Jesus Christ... pseudo-intellectuals piss me off. | Right after you started talking about riots over potatoes.....I'm just following your train of thought all the way to the multi-carriage Crash.
As to my alleged rant about the potato famine, I'm of course talking to the fact that the British were able to provide enough food to Ireland during the great famine, but the Irish Catholic Church had placed threats of excomunication on those who sided with the protestants. It's not the sole cause if you include the cholera epidemic http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/...mine/index.htm
this is a good site, of course, the interference of the Catholic Church and the implied attempted genocide of the English Crown are both questionable.
Back to topic My comments on the lack of tensions and in some support of what wysiwyg said is yes there are tensions, however you don't see the million man march or anyhting even vaugely similar in the UK. this is surely indicative of a lesser tension if admitedly still extant. Mobilisation of hostility which usually comes fom more ingrained tension.
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Originally Posted by Sectrefocal1.2 Either way you put it, Billy is a racist pig of whom I don't have a "crush" on, but rather, prefer crushing. ^_^
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Originally Posted by neonwraith Right after you started talking about riots over potatoes.....I'm just following your train of thought all the way to the multi-carriage Crash.
As to my alleged rant about the potato famine, I'm of course talking to the fact that the British were able to provide enough food to Ireland during the great famine, but the Irish Catholic Church had placed threats of excomunication on those who sided with the protestants. It's not the sole cause if you include the cholera epidemic http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/...mine/index.htm
this is a good site, of course, the interference of the Catholic Church and the implied attempted genocide of the English Crown are both questionable.
Back to topic My comments on the lack of tensions and in some support of what wysiwyg said is yes there are tensions, however you don't see the million man march or anyhting even vaugely similar in the UK. this is surely indicative of a lesser tension if admitedly still extant. Mobilisation of hostility which usually comes fom more ingrained tension.
Neon | Uhh the English didnt provide enough food? what kind of revisionism is that bullshit? The only "food" they provided was a SLIGHT decrease in demand on Irish domestic items. THe majority of the food and wool was being taken BY the BRITISH for thier armies. THe Irish starved because the majority of thier goods were being taken by the occupying force. If they just let the Irish keep what they grew they wouldnt have starved. There was a reason the Irish diet consisted of a single fucking item. Potatos. and it wasnt because there was a lack of other food originally in Ireland, it was because the rest of the food and materials were taken by the British empire. | |
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I think that id Billy claims Blacks are more racist then WHites is entirely his right to do, if that is indeed what he believes.
But I take billy's point that discrimination is a two way street and whereas for the past 40 years the notion that being white is better then being anyhting else has been Dimissed as being rubbish and white supremacy has been put down. There has been no subsequent fervour in opressing notions of Asian or Afro-Caribean supremacy.
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Originally Posted by Billy the Kidd you dont know anything about racism darling. And you want me oh so bad. | I know you're the most racist person I've ever met. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | |
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Originally Posted by neonwraith Right after you started talking about riots over potatoes.....I'm just following your train of thought all the way to the multi-carriage Crash.
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You dink. It was the first vegetable that came to mind. And somehow you decided to start lecturing me (rather patronizing, I might add) about starving Irish 200 years ago not having potatoes?
By that tard logic I should give you the historical rundown of the railroad industry. After all.. you said "train". In Memory of the Busby Babes :
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Originally Posted by Sectrefocal1.2 I know you're the most racist person I've ever met. |
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