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Originally Posted by lilywhitemm no. same as i dont hate all christians even if a few extremeists fucked me over.
i do however hate all extremeists since there is always the potential of getting fucked like that again. | By the way the persons who fucked with you didnt do it because they were Christian they did it because they were assholes. So there you go you can finnally end your endless tirade against Christianity. Mmmkay?
And your slippery usage of the word "extramist" is bullshit and subjective. Since to you any Christian who evangelizes is an extreamist because they try to spread thier faith around. And to you Passive christians (lapsed or otherswise) are the good ones. But since we cleared it up that the people fucking you over were not doing it because they were christian but rather because they were scum we can avoid all this and you can stop posting negative shit about Christians. The dead have been covered in lime. The dead know only one thing; it is better to be alive.
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Does this mean you can stop generalizing and stop calling Christians names and start qualifying your ridiculous statements with "the christians that molested me" instead of "EVIL CHRISTIANS!!!WAAAAAAH"? Can yu do that? Because what you say here and now are not in sync with the shit you normally say which is just that Christians are scum. | why is it exactly that you feel the need to defend christians? you say you arent one. do you feel that christians cannot defend themselves?
my problem is not just with the fuckers that molested or abused me but also with the bastards that come to my door. if anyone needed religion or wanted to go to church, we would go to fucking church. im respectful enough not to go knocking on their doors asking them to convert...why?? cos i can be respectful enough to realise that if they wanted my religion they would seek it. i dont need peopel coming to my door and telling me that unless i choose to go to their church, im a sinner and will suffer. that their path is the only way to salvation. quit your fucking whining. | |
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why is it exactly that you feel the need to defend christians? you say you arent one. do you feel that christians cannot defend themselves? Because im tired of watching assholes bust on Christians just because they think it makes them look cool or somehow superior, newsflash Walter Cronkite, it doesnt, it makes you look like a dumbass.
my problem is not just with the fuckers that molested or abused me but also with the bastards that come to my door. if anyone needed religion or wanted to go to church, we would go to fucking church. im respectful enough not to go knocking on their doors asking them to convert...why?? cos i can be respectful enough to realise that if they wanted my religion they would seek it. i dont need peopel coming to my door and telling me that unless i choose to go to their church, im a sinner and will suffer. that their path is the only way to salvation.[ Yeah I have had Jehovas witnesses come to my door too, and never once have they told me I am going to hell, I politely say that I am not interested and they politely say ok and would I at least take a pamphlet. Usually I do then I toss it when they leave. how FUCKING HARD IS THAT?! Dont give me this bullshit about people comming to your door and telling you youre going to hell, doesnt happen, Andi*IF* it does its probably because you come to the door with an attitude looking for a fucking agument and thats all they have been instructed to say in face of hostile tards looking for a fight. It isnt oppressive for people to spread thier religion peacefully, its how religions spread, I dont see you complaing about the Chinese Takeout guy leaving shit on your doors. I dont see you complaining about the Census takers, I dont see you complaning about any fucking thing else that people try to sell. Why? Because you dont got a chip on your shoulder about Chinese take out, or Avon products or network marketing or girl scouts, you DO have a chip on your shoudler about Christians because you THINK youre better than they are. And youre wrong. No one is better than anyone and thier view is JUST as valid as yours thier religion just as valid thier lifestyle just as valid and if you dont like that then I suggest you move to fucking China where they outlaw religion. I am sure youll be happy to goose step around with the Red brigade with your Lenina friend there and crush all the Christians you want. The dead have been covered in lime. The dead know only one thing; it is better to be alive.
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Originally Posted by J0hnnyReb By the way the persons who fucked with you didnt do it because they were Christian they did it because they were assholes. So there you go you can finnally end your endless tirade against Christianity. Mmmkay?
And your slippery usage of the word "extramist" is bullshit and subjective. Since to you any Christian who evangelizes is an extreamist because they try to spread thier faith around. And to you Passive christians (lapsed or otherswise) are the good ones. But since we cleared it up that the people fucking you over were not doing it because they were christian but rather because they were scum we can avoid all this and you can stop posting negative shit about Christians. | ah, yes. assholes and scum, yes they were. im sure they didnt do it BECAUSE they were christian, but they USED christianity in a shitty way and lied. he reads my mail and says GOD told him!?? BULLSHIT! christianity preaches tolerance...were those kids or sunday school teachers tolerant? nope. did they wanna help me learn and become a new sheep to their flock? do that i may too follow the shepperd? NOPE!
they didnt wanna help me, fuck em. now im fine with christians so long as they dont try to force their dogma on me or tell me that MY views are fucked. i can get along great with christians. im respectful, we hang out, good times. i just dont want their religion forced down my throat when i have my own set of beliefs...is that too much to ask? quit your fucking whining. | |
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ah, yes. assholes and scum, yes they were. im sure they didnt do it BECAUSE they were christian, but they USED christianity in a shitty way and lied. he reads my mail and says GOD told him!?? BULLSHIT! christianity preaches tolerance...were those kids or sunday school teachers tolerant? nope. did they wanna help me learn and become a new sheep to their flock? do that i may too follow the shepperd? NOPE! and yet child moltestors use candy as a tool to get kids into thier car and I am sure you still love candy. The kids were opressing you now eh? yes beleiveable story...more fabrications.
they didnt wanna help me, fuck em. now im fine with christians so long as they dont try to force their dogma on me or tell me that MY views are fucked. i can get along great with christians. im respectful, we hang out, good times. i just dont want their religion forced down my throat when i have my own set of beliefs...is that too much to ask? No is it for you? Is it ok to be Christian without having to be mocked and attacked by you and your asshole friends? Can someone say PRAY over thier shitty starbucks coffee to themselves and not have to worry some shithead thinks they should take it to church? The dead have been covered in lime. The dead know only one thing; it is better to be alive.
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Originally Posted by J0hnnyReb why is it exactly that you feel the need to defend christians? you say you arent one. do you feel that christians cannot defend themselves? Because im tired of watching assholes bust on Christians just because they think it makes them look cool or somehow superior, newsflash Walter Cronkite, it doesnt, it makes you look like a dumbass.
my problem is not just with the fuckers that molested or abused me but also with the bastards that come to my door. if anyone needed religion or wanted to go to church, we would go to fucking church. im respectful enough not to go knocking on their doors asking them to convert...why?? cos i can be respectful enough to realise that if they wanted my religion they would seek it. i dont need peopel coming to my door and telling me that unless i choose to go to their church, im a sinner and will suffer. that their path is the only way to salvation.[ Yeah I have had Jehovas witnesses come to my door oo, and never once have they told me I am going to hell, I politely say that I am not interested and they politely say ok and would I at least take a pamphlet. Usually I fdo then I toss it when they leave. how FUCING HARD IS THAT?! Dont give me this bullshit about people comming to your door and telling you youre going to hell, doesnt happen, And i*IF* it does its probably because you come to the door looking for a fucking agument and thats all they have been instructed to say. It isnt oppressive for people to spread thier religion, its how religions spread, I dont see you complaiing about the Chinese Takeout guy leaving shit on your doors. I dont see you complaining about the Census takers, I dont see you complaiing about any fucking thing else that people try to sell. Why? Because you dont got a chip o your shoulder about Chinese take out, or Avon products or network marketing or girl scouts, you DO have a chip on your shoudler about Christians because you THINK youre better than they are. And youre wrong. Noone is better than anyone and thier view is JUST as valid as yours thier religion just as valid thier lifestyle just as valid and if you dont like that then I suggest you move to fucking China where they outlaw religion. I am sure youll be happy to goose step around with the Red brigade with your Lenina friend there and crush all the Christians you want. | im fine with the jehovahs witness people. i say no thanx and they go. im talking about the Jesus christ of latter day saints door to door assholes. and NO i do not go looking for an arguement. they ask me if ive found the path to salvation yet and i go, yeah, thru my own current religion. then i get this long winded drama about my path not being the right one and that ill go to hell if i dont repent ..yadda yadda yadda...
respect my decision and leave me be!
you know why you dont see me bitching about the chinese takeout menus on my doorstep? because i dont get those. i dont have the chinese food resturants trying to covert me to THEIR restaurant instead of my current one.
i dont have Avon folks hawking their products on me. nor do i have girl scouts trying to get me to buy their cookies.
i dont see the Census guy on my front step. no one else goes out of their way to show up here and tell me im going to hell for following the wrong path.
if these other people did show up and tell me that im making the wrong decision for my life and flip out on them too.
again, im fine with christians, i just dont need them forcing their shit down my goddamn throat, and i dont think thats too much to ask. quit your fucking whining. | |
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Originally Posted by J0hnnyReb ah, yes. assholes and scum, yes they were. im sure they didnt do it BECAUSE they were christian, but they USED christianity in a shitty way and lied. he reads my mail and says GOD told him!?? BULLSHIT! christianity preaches tolerance...were those kids or sunday school teachers tolerant? nope. did they wanna help me learn and become a new sheep to their flock? do that i may too follow the shepperd? NOPE! and yet child moltestors use candy as a tool to get kids into thier car and I am sure you still love candy. The kids were opressing you now eh? yes beleiveable story...more fabrications.
they didnt wanna help me, fuck em. now im fine with christians so long as they dont try to force their dogma on me or tell me that MY views are fucked. i can get along great with christians. im respectful, we hang out, good times. i just dont want their religion forced down my throat when i have my own set of beliefs...is that too much to ask? No is it for you? Is it ok to be Christian without having to be mocked and attacked by you and your asshole friends? Can someone say PRAY over thier shitty starbucks coffee to themselves and not have to worry some shithead thinks they should take it to church? | i THINK they should take it to church or do it silently. i didnt TELL them that.
and as for the kids, they were, well....the boy anyway....was the one who beat me. and the teacher laughed. is that anyway to treat somone who could have been a member of that church? if someone comes to them looking for guidance and questions, is that how theyre treated?? thats apalling! are you condoning that behavoiur? quit your fucking whining. | |
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Originally Posted by J0hnnyReb Plenty of the fools around here are. | Name some. Please. Quote: |
And the rest are pretty much Christianphobes. And have irrational fears of christianity which were probably put into them by MTV and other trendy angst filled bullshit suorces.
| A good healthy fear breeds intelligence and wariness. Better to know what you are leaping into than not knowing. Who said religion was bad? Not I. Quote:
the only thing more brutal that surpassed religion was a forced absence of religion ask
*Soviet Russia
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And so on and so on and so on.
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Of course the "reason" for disliking Christianity here has nothing to do with reality and everything to do with bullshit.
Like Lenina said "THESE r HOLE HARTED CHRITIANS!?! LOLZ!"
As though theyre supposed to be fucking perfect, give me a fucking break. Christians enver proclaimed to be perfect, they prcliamed to understand that they are sinners and they repent and TRY to uphold a better moral code. THAT IS ALL THEY SAY. Get it through you thick fuckin skulls.
| No. That is not all that ALL Christians say. There are well over 100 branches of Christianity. Some are pretty cool and some are downright anal. Luckily I do not judge the entirety of Christianity by the odd red-headed step-children the one true Christian Faith has bred. Oh.... that would be Catholicism. They began thier existence about 30 years after the death of Christ. Every other splinter that follows is a mere step-child.
Get it through your "thick fucking skull" that we should be allowed to vent our feelings whether they be good or bad about a subject. If someone dislikes christianity telling them they are fuckwits seems a surefire way to allow them to keep thier feelings and be justified in doing so.
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Originally Posted by lilywhitemm im fine with the jehovahs witness people. i say no thanx and they go. im talking about the Jesus christ of latter day saints door to door assholes. and NO i do not go looking for an arguement. they ask me if ive found the path to salvation yet and i go, yeah, thru my own current religion. then i get this long winded drama about my path not being the right one and that ill go to hell if i dont repent ..yadda yadda yadda...
respect my decision and leave me be!
you know why you dont see me bitching about the chinese takeout menus on my doorstep? because i dont get those. i dont have the chinese food resturants trying to covert me to THEIR restaurant instead of my current one.
i dont have Avon folks hawking their products on me. nor do i have girl scouts trying to get me to buy their cookies.
i dont see the Census guy on my front step. no one else goes out of their way to show up here and tell me im going to hell for following the wrong path.
if these other people did show up and tell me that im making the wrong decision for my life and flip out on them too.
again, im fine with christians, i just dont need them forcing their shit down my goddamn throat, and i dont think thats too much to ask. | yup I get all of them too, not just the Jehovas people. And when they ask me if I found the path to whatever I say simply "not interested" I dont start an argument or say MY RELIGION IS FINE YOU FUCKS NOW LEAVE ME THE FUCK BE like you apparently do. The whole bit about Christians showing up on your doorstep to tell you you are going to hell sounds fishy to me and bullshit. Because they just dont do that. Maybe youre the only person they do it to and in which case it probably has more to do with your attitude than anything. And when Chinese takeout places put shit in your doorway that is their way of trying to convert you from other places to thiers. Its not? Are you fucking joking? do you know anything about business?
Try this the next time your latterday christians show up.
them "hi are you interested in...
you "sorry guys I am not interested I really dont have time to talk to you"
them "oh ok, will you take this pamphlet??"
you "yes, have a nice day" *close door, throw away pamphlet*.
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Originally Posted by J0hnnyReb yup I get all of them too, not just the Jehovas people. And when they ask me if I found the path to whatever I say simply "not interested" I dont start an argument or say MY RELIGION IS FINE YOU FUCKS NOW LEAVE ME THE FUCK BE like you apparently do. The whole bit about Christians showing up on your doorstep to tell you you are going to hell sounds fishy to me and bullshit. Because they just dont do that. Maybe youre the only person they do it to and in which case it probably has more to do with your attitude than anything. And when Chinese takeout places put shit in your doorway that is their way of trying to convert you from other places to thiers. Its not? Are you fucking joking? do you know anything about business?
Try this the next time your latterday christians show up.
them "hi are you interested in...
you "sorry guys I am not interested I really dont have time to talk to you"
them "oh ok, will you take this pamphlet??"
you "yes, have a nice day" *close door, throw away pamphlet*.
SIMPLE | i love how you make me out to be a monster. didnt i just get done telling you that this is all i say??? : yeah, thru my own current religion.
thats IT! nothing else!
i am not rude, i am not foul mouthed, i am not condescending!
as for your instructions, why the fuck should i have to take their goddamned pamphlet? i dont want it. i dont want them getting the idea that i am even remotely interested. i dont even want them coming to my fucking door. i dont think thats too much to ask. to be left alone about my decisions, do you understand that?
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Name some. Please. Lilywhitem, garg, Lenina at times.
A good healthy fear breeds intelligence and wariness. Better to know what you are leaping into than not knowing. Fear of the unknown is founded, fear of the known is unfounded unless it directly threatens your welfare. A Fear of Christianity is an IRRATIONAL fear because you really have no reason to fear them.
Who said religion was bad? Not I. Plenty of folks on here.
That had more to do with "forced lack of FREEDOM" not religion my friend. No it had forced lack of religion. The German citizens werent locked up they were free to do as they choose, just not be religious or put any gods above the state.
No. That is not all that ALL Christians say. There are well over 100 branches of Christianity. Some are pretty cool and some are downright anal. Luckily I do not judge the entirety of Christianity by the odd red-headed step-children the one true Christian Faith has bred. Oh.... that would be Catholicism. They began thier existence about 30 years after the death of Christ. Every other splinter that follows is a mere step-child. Yes it is what they say, inf act its why we have the concept of Original sin which began with the Catholics and metamorphed into differnt philosophies in the splinter groups of Christianity.
Get it through your "thick fucking skull" that we should be allowed to vent our feelings whether they be good or bad about a subject. If someone dislikes christianity telling them they are fuckwits seems a surefire way to allow them to keep thier feelings and be justified in doing so. I dont see how, I am not a christian. If I am sitting here and see a bunch of retards bashing Christianity for INSANE AND RIDICULOUS reasons such as "THEY ARENT PERFECT" I am going to put them in thier place. its abso-fucking-lutely insane that people can bash a christian for what others PERCIEVE a christian to be. Christians never said they were perfect, just saved, just sinners, just trying to understand thier nature. They never said I AM PERFECT so the whole CHRISTIAN R TEH GAY BECUZ DEY R NOT TEH PERFECT is a bullshit excuse for hating on Christians. And i will counter it as I see fit.
Luckily I am niether a Christian nor a pansy Athiest. I think you will be hard put to find an active Athiest upon this forum. Most believe in something. It may not be Christianity but it is still faith based. Which proves my point then that they are fucking dolts, bashing Christianity because it makes them think they are cool or better makes them in fact worse than the Christians they think are oppressing them. The dead have been covered in lime. The dead know only one thing; it is better to be alive.
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Originally Posted by J0hnnyReb And when Chinese takeout places put shit in your doorway that is their way of trying to convert you from other places to thiers. Its not? Are you fucking joking? do you know anything about business? |
you know why you dont see me bitching about the chinese takeout menus on my doorstep? because i dont get those. i dont have the chinese food resturants trying to covert me to THEIR restaurant instead of my current one.
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I love how you make me out to be a monster. didnt i just get done telling you that this is all i say??? : yeah, thru my own current religion. considering your propensity for bashing on christians I find it hard to believe its them who are the problem. They arent out to argue with people just to leave pamphlets, you make it soundas if they go to every fucking house in your town to argue with people, BULLSHIT. I knew a kid in highschool who would go on saturdays house to house evangelizing and he was good fucking person far better than all the piece of shit goth and manson shitheads who picked on him then tried to claim he was pushing shit on them when he was having a prayer circle with his other friends in the morning before class. He told me he NEVER tried to argue with people, just go say hi, be friendly have a brief chatand leave a pamphlet, and most of the time the houses that took longer than 5 minutes were the raging christophobic assholes looking to pick on them.
thats IT! nothing else!
i am not rude, i am not foul mouthed, i am not condescending! doubltful at best. I am sure you say much worse. ALl you got to tell them is " I am not interested." PERIOD and they go away.
as for your instructions, why the fuck should i have to take their goddamned pamphlet? i dont want it. i dont want them getting the idea that i am even remotely interested. i dont even want them coming to my fucking door. i dont think thats too much to ask. to be left alone about my decisions, do you understand that? Because its polite? The same reason you may take a coupon to eat at Joes in NYC, or a business card at a carnival. Because it makes them LEAVE faster. The best way to make a Marine recruiter leave you alone is to say "I dont have time to talk but if you got literature I will take that" know what they do? they give it to you and leave. Say shit like I am not interested in the marine or I dont believe in war and then you got a discussion on your hands. Just take the literature and fucking throw it out they will let you be. And like the mail man your front door is TECHNICALLY public property. I work in doing literature drops in the passed for political campaigns. Noone can tell me I have no right to leave a pamphlet in thier mail box unless they tell me personally. You cant expect that noone is going to come and then try to use it as some justification. I you want to kep people out I suggest buying a fence with a lock on it. Do you understand that?
and yes, they have inquired as to what my religion is and they have told me that my path is not a path to salvation but a path to hell for those who do not accept jesus etc etc. Why the FUCK are you even answering? The fact that youre starting up discussion with them PROVES that its your fault in the 1st place. They cannot bother you if A. you dont open the door or B. you tell them you are uninterested and close the door.
ITS THAT FUCKING SIMPLE! The dead have been covered in lime. The dead know only one thing; it is better to be alive.
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