You are right here, it was 1:26-27. And the quote is from the NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION. Hath not I whom readeth the King James Version.

I committed wrath, I repent it though. It is washed away.

Well there is were I finally end it. Hope the a day of awakening comes to you all and minds spill over with the Truth.

Peace and love be with you.

I don't think I like duke and his one way closed minded views on the world. I hope one day you take your own advice and learn to be more accepting of others. and what you and a thousand year old out dated fictional book say is not necessarily wrong.

No, no, you silly hypocrite.

Let me give you a more obvious hint:

I want to fuck you like an animal
I want to feel you from the inside
I want to fuck you like an animal
My whole existence is flawed
You get me closer to god

Better?

I can come up with some better blasphemous bits of NIN for you and your pretty Trent avi.

Shemhamforash! hail satan.... satan made me into a homosexual, and since he made me into a homosexual.. that would mean i'm evil.... and again here i'll go with this..

Shemhamforash! hail satan.

Judge not yadda yadda yadda.

.. and you know what, I've read the 'Good News' (New Testament) and wasn't particularly impressed with its stance on women and slavery. How come you accept the stance on homosexuality in Romans, but not the greater number of quotes on slavery? (Rhetorical question, its because you're a bigot).

Yes I did judge you, but I'm an atheist, I don't particularly have anything against judging others, in fact, there is a judicial system specifically for that (so much for vengence is only for God).

Wrath my arse, like you could make me angry

I'd love you to sink to my level though, and actually think about why you discard the quotes about slavery and embrace the one about homosexuality, but I imagine you'll remain aloof and never consider why, still telling people the bible doesn't condone slavery and sees homosexuality as wrong in the eyes of God.
Well would you look at that!, after saying he'd say nothing more in the thread, and saying he wouldn't say anything else hurtful, he shows the hypocracy yet again, ooh, I was surprised, were you surprised?

This time you'll finally end it?

I still want to hear why you say the bible says God considers homosexuality wrong, yet doesn't condone slavery, but oh well.

What a lovely, and yet completely asinine attitude to take toward your religion. I mean, on top of the fact that your avatar features one of the least Christian men I can think of (a great artist yet, but a man so unholy it's not even funny) you don't even stop to think about what you're saying. Congratulations on once again proving why Christians make themselves look bad.

(Edited though the point remains)

So now we see why you decided to name yourself after the material that comes out a creatures' hind end: it comes out of your mouth apparently!

Anyway, on to story time:

So once upon a time God flooded the world. Once upon a time God burned two cities. And once upon a time God punished his favorite group of people for worshiping some one other than himself.

Once upon a time God also set forth a list of rules to follow. No, I'm not just talking about the part of the Bible that you so naively choose to ignore. I'm just talking about in general.

Jesus himself discusses on multiple occasions the dangers of judging some one unless you yourself are blameless.

And yet, despite the fact that by all means listening to music that blatantly goes against the teachings of your patron deity should be considered a sin you not only find a thin justification for listening to it (Christian music sucks?! I won't argue this point with you, but there is less offensive secular music out there, my friend) but still feel more than comfortable claiming that something another person does is wrong because God said it was.

Congratulations. Your hypocrisy still remains undisputed, hypocrite!


And this is justification for listening to secular, not only secular, but "heathenistic" (if you will) music? It is a justification for sinning? Your logic eludes me. Wait, let me see if I can try to make sense of it your way.

So what your saying is that if some one wasn't always a Christian than if they went out and killed a million-billion babies after asking God into their heart it would be alright? Because all sins are equal, right?

Twice now we have supported my assertion that you, sir, are a hypocrite!

Jesus Christ people like you make me sick.

I'm sorry, but these arguments make me seriously feel ill. Next you're going to tell me that Rob Zombie really is a Christian too, right? And Cradle of Filth?
(No, proves nothing, I just wanted to publicaly voice my opinion on these sort of statements)


There was more but I don't feel the need to bring it out since any point I would make would be for the sole purpose of mocking and I don't really need to do more of that, but I don't feel that there was anything to disprove my statement that Mr. Duke E. is a hypocrite. (If he feels differently, then by all means I invite him to post the whole text)

And I could go further and elaborate more, but I feel that between what others have said and my last few posts that my point has been made.

Duke E, you are most certainly appropriately named, hypocrite

Who are you to judge God's perfect morality? Can you not see you are mere mortal man, and if this God I speak of does exist as I say it does there would be a great many things you would not understand? You think I could understand being verbally and physically abused for MOST of life??!?! No sir, I couldn't! But it took me a long time to realize this thing called free will, and see how people eventually get their due punishment and how Christ's loving arms were there all along when others weren't.

Do you think, maybe I'm just not that into lyrics? Maybe do you think it's possible I could have a thing for rhthym, timbre, and pitch. But no, lyrics are the only part of music I guess because you said so. But you know what I actually like Nine Inch Nails lyrics, and they are one of the only instances where I do. At least he (Trent Reznor) is honest, which is more than I can say for most, and maybe I could take comfort in the fact that not all of feel like we have had awfully splendid lives???? Maybe I could take comfort in seeing some one struggle with his faith too, comfort in knowing we're not all perfect little butterflies?

I didn't judge anyone, I made it clear several time that you all are no more guilty than me, I just hate to see what happened to me happen to you. I just wish you better than me? Or are you who is obviously misinformed and uneducated to the Bible going to tell me this is non-Christian concept? And if I did judge someone, what can I say other than I mere mortal man as well and offer humble apologies?

And if someone did kill a million billion babies, God would still forgive him and offer him eternal slavation, but he would not guartnee such a man would not be a victim to earthly consquences. And yes, God sees all sin as equal, just as he sees all sinners as equal. A concept I wish alot of Christian brothers and sister would realize too.

Name a solo industrial music artist or group that is more secular as well as more musically interesting than Trent Reznor, and shares alot of the same sort of life experiences I have??? Marilyn Manson, Skinny Puppy, Ministry, Razed In Black, Front Line Assembly, Covenant???? Think about it...do you know any good industrial music that is less offensive and musically better than Trent Reznor's... I sure can't! I'm sure open to suggestion though. What's it to you, if I can listen to such music, but not always agree with the lyrical content, and overlook it even if you can't? My mission in life has pratically become to undo what all of these have done, and say you can still be fucking miserable and Christian and write what I consider good music. Is that so wrong????

And I wouldn't say I think Rob Zombie or Cradle of Filth are Christians and I don't like their music - I find it completely ridicolous, silly, AND offensive all at the same time! I never said Trent Reznor was Christian. He was born and raised that way though, but we makes alot of the same associative errors I used to make. I said he was believer, but I wouldn't stretch that as far as to call him Christian. But for someone not being a believer as you say, he sure talks a WHOLE lot about him (God) in his lyrics, don't you think??? And if you have seen the inside of his studio you would know he has a huge Jesus crucifixtion in it, which doesn't neccesary mean anything, but with everything else I said - it should make you think.

And my wife gave me this name as a silly joke and to complement her name, which is none other than Duchess Nocturn. As she at least used to be well known in these parts, and we both used to frequent this site alot - but we both had more important life matters to attend to (mainly each other), as talking on a silly forum was I am sorry not on the top of our life's agenda.

Oh, Peace and love be with you.

Who are you to judge Gods perfect morality. Who are you to say that when the bible says homosexuality is wrong, it is Gods will, yet when it condones Slavery, it is not Gods will, who are you to decide what is or is not Gods will?

You can stop judging people, I don't thing the idea is to just say, "Well I repented" and then do it again anyway. I also think if anyone is misinformed and uneducated about the bible, it would be you, who decides what is Gods will and what isn't on a whim depending on what you agree with, taking parts literally and other parts as non literal with absolutely no explanation what-so-ever.

If you did understand the bible you'd realise that it is not Gods will unless Gods will is contradictory.

You are misguided, oh ye unfaithful. Hail Eris! Hail Discordia! Fnord!

Trent Reznor is an Ex-Mormon.....

he sewed his eyes shut because he is afraid to see
he tries to tell me what i put inside of me
he got the answers to ease my curiosity
he dreamed a god up and called it christianity
g...g...g...g
g...g...g...g...g...g...g...g...g...g...g...g
god is dead and no one cares
if there is a hell i'll see you there
he flexed his muscles to keep his flock of sheep in line
he made a virus that would kill off all the swine
his perfect kingdom of killing, suffering, and pain
demands devotion, atrocities done in his name
god is dead and no one cares
if there is a hell i'll see you there
your god is dead and no one cares
if there is a hell i'll see you there
god is dead and no one cares
if there is a hell i'll see you there
your god is dead and no one cares
if there is a hell i'll see you there


written by trent reznor

hey god, why are you doing this to me?
am i not living up to what i'm supposed to be?
why am i seething with this animosity?
hey god, i think you owe me a great big apology
terrible lie...terrible lie...terrible lie...terrible lie
hey god, i really don't know what you mean
seems like salvation comes only in my dreams
i feel my hatred grow all the more extreme
hey god, can this world really be as sad as it seems?
terrible lie...terrible lie...terrible lie...terrible lie
don't take it away from me; i need you to hold on to
don't take it away from me; i need you to hold on to
don't take it away from me; i need you to hold on to
don't take it away from me; i need someone to hold on to
don't tear it away from me; i need you to hold on to
don't tear it away from me; i need someone to hold on to
don't tear it away from me; i need you to hold on to
don't tear it...don't tear it...don't take it, don't take it, don't...
hey god, there's nothing left for me to hide
i lost my ignorance, security, and pride
i'm all alone in a world you must despise
hey god, i believed your promises, your promises and lies
terrible lie...terrible lie...terrible lie...terrible lie
terrible lie
you make me throw it all away
my morals left to decay (terrible lie)
how many you betray
you've taken everything (terrible lie)
my head is filled with disease
my skin is begging you, please (terrible lie)
i'm on my hands and knees
i want so much to believe
i give you everything
my sweet everything
i give you everything (i need someone to hold on to...i need someone to hold on to)
my sweet everything (i need someone to hold on to...i need someone to hold on to)
i give you everything (i need someone to hold on to...i need someone to hold on to)
my sweet everything (i need someone to hold on to...i need someone to hold on)
i give you everything (i need someone to hold on to...i need someone to hold on to)
my sweet everything (i need someone, i need someone, i need someone to hold on to)
i give you everything (i need someone to hold on to...i need someone to hold on to)
my sweet everything (i need someone, i need someone, i need someone to hold on to)
i need someone to hold on to


written and performed by trent reznor

there is no god up in the sky tonight
no sign of heaven anywhere in sight
all that was true is left behind
once i could see, now i am blind
don't want the dreams you try to sell
this disease i give to myself
how does it feel?
how does it feel?
she makes it sweeter than the sun
i get to tight, i come undone
i bow my head to confess
the temple walls are made of flesh
runs up my arms 'til i'm on track
itches my skin right off my back
i'll heal your wounds, i'll set you free
i'm jesus christ on ecstasy
how does it feel?
how does it feel?
i am so dirty on the inside
i am so dirty on the inside
i am so dirty on the inside
i am so dirty on the inside
no
how does it feel?
how does it feel?
suck, (suck), suck, (suck), suck, (suck), suck, (suck), s...oh
a thousand lips, a thousand tongues
a thousand throats, a thousand lungs
a thousand ways to make it true
i want to do terrible things to you


written by trent reznor/pigface

you let me violate you
you let me desacrate you
you let me penatrate you
you let me complicate you
help me
i broke apart my insides
help me
i've got no soul to sell
help me
the only thing that works for me
help me get away from myself
i want to fuck you like an animal
i want to feel you from the inside
i want fo fuck you like an animal
my whole existence is flawed
you get me closer to god
you can have my isolation
you can have the hate that it brings
you can have my absence of faith
you can have my everything
help me
you tear down my reason
help me
it's your sex i can smell
help me
you make me perfect
help me become somebody else
i want to fuck you like an animal
i want to feel you from the inside
i want to fuck you like an animal
my whole existence is flawed
you get me closer to god
all through every forest
above the trees
within my stomach
scraped off my knees
i drink the honey
inside your hive
you are the reason
i stay alive


written, arranged, and performed by trent reznor

i think maybe i made my point....