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Synikul · **Human sacrifice -** 06-18-05

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'Child sacrifices in London'
By Richard Edwards Crime Reporter, Evening Standard
16 June 2005
Boys from Africa are being murdered as human sacrif ices in London churches.

They are brought into the capital to be offered up in rituals by fundamentalist Christian sects, according to a shocking report by Scotland Yard.

Followers believe that powerful spells require the deaths of "unblemished" male children.

Police believe such boys are trafficked from cities such as Kinshasa where they can be bought for a little as £10.

The report, leaked ahead of its publication next month, also cites examples of African children being tortured and killed after being identified as "witches" by church pastors.

The 10-month study was commissioned after the death of Victoria Climbié, who was starved and beaten to death after they said she was possessed by the devil.

The aim of the Met study was to create an "open dialogue" with the African and Asian community in Newham and Hackney. In discussions with African community leaders, officers were told of examples of children being murdered because their parents or carers believe them to be possessed by evil spirits. Earlier-this month Sita Kisanga, 35, was convicted at the Old Bailey of torturing an eight-year-old girl from Angola she accused of being a witch.

Kisanga was a member of the Combat Spirituel church in Dalston. Many such churches, supported mainly by people from West Africa, sanction aggressive forms of exorcism on those thought to be possessed.

There are believed to be 300 such churches in the UK, mostly in London.

The report was put together by an expert social worker and lawyer for the Met after talking to hundreds of people in African communities in a series of workshops. It uncovered allegations of witchcraft spells, child trafficking and HIV-positive people who believe that by having sex with a child they will be "cleansed".

An extract reads: "People who are desperate will seek out experts to cast spells for them.

"Members of the workshop stated that for a spell to be powerful it required a sacrifice involving a male child unblemished by circumcision. They allege that boy children are being trafficked into the UK for this purpose."

It adds: "A number of pastors maintain that God speaks through them and lets them know when someone is possessed.

"It is therefore their duty to deliver the child or adult from the evil spirit.

"After much debate they acknowledge that children labelled as possessed are in danger of being beaten by their families.

"However, they would not accept they played a role in inciting such violence."

Last month Scotland Yard revealed it had traced just two out of 300 black boys aged four to seven reported missing from London schools in a three-month period.

The true figure for missing boys and girls is feared to be several thousand a year.

The scale of the problem emerged through the murder inquiry following the discovery of a child's torso in the Thames in September 2001. The identity of the victim, named Adam by police, is not known but his background was traced to Nigeria. It is believed he died in a ritual sacrifice.

John Azar, who helped the police on that inquiry, told Radio4's Today programme that the known cases could be "the tip of the iceberg".

Police working on the Adam case have found children are being sold to traffickers on the streets of major African cities for less than £10 and then smuggled into the UK. The children arrive in London armed with false documents and accompanied by adults who believe they will bolster their asylum claims.

Dr Richard Hoskins, a lecturer of Theology and Religious Studies at King's College, said: "We know this through work we have been doing on the Adam inquiry. These children are ripe for people to abuse. They are easy prey."

A Met spokesman said: "We undertook a project aimed at improving our knowledge of issues impacting child abuse within the African and Asian communities of London. The aim of the project was to open a dialogue within these communities and encourage a debate which would help reduce the risks of harm to children."

The report says there is a wide gulf between these communities and social services and protection agencies with many people in ethnic communities scared to speak out.

The report concludes police face a "wall of silence" when dealing with such cases.

Experts differ on the merits of the Scotland Yard report.

Dr William Les Henry, a lecturer in sociology at Goldsmiths College, said aspects of the reports were pigeonholing crimes together and were patronising and racist.

He said: "When we think about these cases we can see the same kind of patterns of behaviour in European cultures but they are interpreted in completely different ways.

"This is one of the crises with social sciences anyway, when they are supposedly interpreting the folk ways or cultural habits of alien cultures." He said that the models such reports are based on are that "Africans are less civilised, less rational".

But Dr Hoskins said: "This is very detailed, qualitative report that actually comes out of the communities.

"This is not white people saying this. This has actually comes from the communities authored by people in the community and that really stymies the racist line." He added: "We are dealing with real cases here. When you actually talk to them, these are hard and fast facts.

"So I don't think we are getting wrong, but it is right to treat it sensitively."

He believes vulnerable people are being manipulated by spiritual leaders.

"This is absolutely what is going on. They are often very vulnerable, poor people.

"It is people in positions of power and money that are manipulating poor people."

http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/19328071

Why does anyone in the West allow these filthy animals to leave their continent and mix with their betters in the civilised world?

Remember this when Bob Geldof has his funny little concert to raise more money for Africa. No amount of money can change these savages.

Lenina · 06-18-05

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Originally Posted by Synikul

Why does anyone in the West allow these filthy animals to leave their continent and mix with their betters in the civilised world?

Remember this when Bob Geldof has his funny little concert to raise more money for Africa. No amount of money can change these savages.

You're fucking sick... Just... Oh words fail me you fucking arsehole...

syphilis · 06-18-05

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Originally Posted by Synikul

Why does anyone in the West allow these filthy animals to leave their continent and mix with their betters in the civilised world?

Yeah,why can't those priests go to africa and kill them there,like in the good old times.

Synikul · 06-18-05

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Originally Posted by Lenina

You're fucking sick... Just... Oh words fail me you fucking arsehole...

Yes, I'm sick for wanting to keep these "people" out, but they're not sick for chopping up kids in bizzarre religious ceremonies.

Do I have that right? Am I understanding your logic on this?

Lenina · 06-18-05

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Originally Posted by Synikul

Yes, I'm sick for wanting to keep these "people" out, but they're not sick for chopping up kids in bizzarre religious ceremonies.

Do I have that right? Am I understanding your logic on this?

I think that is sick also, but why post it on the bitch board? Shouldn't it be on the serious discussions board... You see, you mentioned nothing about what the fucking bastards in london killing children, you just posted the article and then wrote that shit underneeth it. Like you didn't really care about what they were doing because you just wanted to post some racist bullshit on here.

Yeah I care what's happening but I also care that you would come on here and expolit something so disgusting, something that christians are doing only to tell us that they are "savages"... With no reference to the fuckers or compassion to the poor kids that they are doing that with. Thats why you came across as a sick fuck.

You know Synikul... It's in London, my homeland, the british isles... Let the people of the UK decide wheather or not they are racist fuckers... Deal with your own country... Like your shitstain, fuckwit Bush and his bullshit. Fuck knows, us Brits have had to deal with his fucking tripe and we don't even fucking live there.

cussedness · 06-18-05

If it's in UK, then it is probably on these shores also. The same groups that migrate to England also migrate to the US.

Sybs · 06-18-05

I read this article in the paper.
I wasn't surprised.
I've lived in London, and will be moving back there imminently. It's not a localised problem, it's a global problem of barbaric religion. It's not exclusive to these African religions (funnily enough called 'extremist Christian' by some), it happens in nearly every religion to some extent.

The problem here is at the source. Parents desperate enough to sell their children to be sacrificed. People in such poverty that £10 is worth more than their child's life. And that is why the poorest countries need help. Not pity, or cash in hand, they need help to build their own economies, to effectively use and trade their resources, to create jobs with a fair wage so their situation is not so dire they feel they have to sell their kids.

That's the only way this problem will be remedied.

Quiet..... · 06-18-05

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Originally Posted by Lenina

You're fucking sick... Just... Oh words fail me you fucking arsehole...

No, he's a conservative.

mrjihad · 06-18-05

Gandalf

Mia~ow · 06-20-05

It's sick that people will sell their children, and it's sick that other people buy them. Race isn't even an issue - no race is 'better' than any other. They're all sick human beings - period.

Lenina · 06-20-05

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Originally Posted by Quiet.....

No, he's a conservative.

Conservative, sick, racist... What else are they calling themselves these days?

syphilis · 06-22-05

People who doesn't believe in the multiracial society shit.

Lenina · 06-22-05

It's don't. Just so you know...

syphilis · 06-22-05

I think you're the last person on this site to correct someone's spelling, you fucked up old insecure slag.

Uncletiggs · 06-22-05

HAHAHA and there was an article in the news tonight about some senetor or congressman that was saying that the republicans were "nothing but white supremisist christians" !!!!!!

Lenina · 06-23-05

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Originally Posted by syphilis

I think you're the last person on this site to correct someone's spelling, you fucked up old insecure slag.

Thats Miss "gagged, tagged, fucked up slag" to you, turpis dipshit. {Insert random retarded smilies here once quoted and replied}

Lenina · 06-23-05

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Originally Posted by Darktiggr

HAHAHA and there was an article in the news tonight about some senetor or congressman that was saying that the republicans were "nothing but white supremisist christians" !!!!!!

Wow... America is all arse-side-forward... I mean, what do you guys have to look forward to in life over there regarding politics under rule of little Hitler?

What next? American soilders getting the all clear to tortured and murder muslims? Oh wait.... Fuck nevermind....

Qoji · 06-23-05

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Originally Posted by Synikul

Why does anyone in the West allow these filthy animals to leave their continent and mix with their betters in the civilised world?

Do you include yourself as their better, and if so how do you figure you're better?

Lenina · 06-23-05

DO not question racism... It gives them the opportunity to talk shit and really... Not many people want to know... I mean, it doesn't matter what you say, they will still argue because they are racists and they suck ass.... Plain and simple... Nobody wants to hear their bullshit... Especially me....

I could answer for him though because I already know what he is going to say... "Yes, I am better than those savages because 1. I'm white. 2. I don't kill nobody and 3. Because they are a scourge on society... *blagh blagh blagh* Back to Russia!"

(antihero) · 06-23-05

Get out of my state, Synikul