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If it really bothers you that much I won't try to stop you. Take a look at the politics board again sometime and please note that it is stable, his conduct hasn't changed for the worse that I have seen.
We have to deal with people whose viewpoints we may disagree with everyday, it's part of life and Synikul has never tried to force his views on others or to rub our faces in it. Sure some of his viewpoints are nasty but I would think that it wouldn't bother you that much. Although that's just me. de vagorum ordine dico vobis iura
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Originally Posted by Iron's Rite If it really bothers you that much I won't try to stop you. Take a look at the politics board again sometime and please note that it is stable, his conduct hasn't changed for the worse that I have seen. | I don't think the politics board's current stability has anything to do with Synikul. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Iron's Rite We have to deal with people whose viewpoints we may disagree with everyday, it's part of life and Synikul has never tried to force his views on others or to rub our faces in it. Sure some of his viewpoints are nasty but I would think that it wouldn't bother you that much. Although that's just me. | Maybe its because I've been a victim of racist abuse, who knows, maybe its because I'm principled and moralistic, you know, like, well, most people who don't think racists should be senators (or equiv.), I don't think racists should be moderators.
You never know, if he isn't a hypocrite and his word means anything, he'll be resigned shortly anyway. Thanks. Find out exactly what to think, next.
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Have you forgotten where I live? I've already explained why I do not object to Synikul being a moderator and frankly I'm sick of the whole discussion because it's just going around in circles.
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Originally Posted by Quiet..... imho, i don't really care who a mod is, since, to me... mods should only exert some level of power over others when things go out of wack...ergo, the word Moderator. In this case, I don't think it's a matter of controversy, speculation, dispute, etc... a moderator strictly follows the definition....ehh...of course this has been done before, but whatever:
Source: www.dictionary.com | Can I go by this definition?
mod·er·a·tor Audio pronunciation of "moderator" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (md-rtr)
3. Physics. A substance, such as water or graphite, that is used in a nuclear reactor to decrease the speed of fast neutrons and increase the likelihood of fission.
It sounds much more interesting. Work is of two kinds: first, altering the position of matter at or near the earth's surface relatively to other such matter; second, telling other people to do so.
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Originally Posted by Iron's Rite Have you forgotten where I live? I've already explained why I do not object to Synikul being a moderator and frankly I'm sick of the whole discussion because it's just going around in circles.
I'll let you two hash it out, I have faith in both of your abilities to defend yourselves. | Okay, continue with the controversy, I'm sure you can argue why JLB, dgg9 and Sire are bad controversy and why racism is good controversy, since JLB, dgg9 and Sire all produced more posts. Thanks. Find out exactly what to think, next.
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Its odd, even if true, I never expected anyone to admit that the moderators aren't working in the best interest of the users, but merely trying to piss them off, but not enough to make them leave.
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Originally Posted by Peter Okay, continue with the controversy, I'm sure you can argue why JLB, dgg9 and Sire are bad controversy and why racism is good controversy, since JLB, dgg9 and Sire all produced more posts. | JLB and Sixgun flamed and trolled constantly while presenting their viewpoints creating a negative atmosphere that encouraged unhealthy debate.
If on the other hand, someone can hold opposing viewpoints without constantly bringing them up as a means of trolling and without allowing them to affect debate and decision making on their part. Then we have no right to restrict their activities on the forum including being a moderator if they want to be one. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Peter Its odd, even if true, I never expected anyone to admit that the moderators aren't working in the best interest of the users, but merely trying to piss them off, but not enough to make them leave.
Obviously, its overkill when you consider the number of actual posters left. | So what decisions would you make? Either way, no matter what decision you make you are going to piss people off in the course of moderating a website. I don't see how you can't know that.
We have a choice between doing our best to allow a healthy degree of diversity in the forum and banning everyone who has something about them that makes a couple of members queasy.
What choice would you make? Fucking deal with it will you? We're not a bunch of ogres out to destroy the forum piece-by-piece.
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Originally Posted by Iron's Rite JLB and Sixgun flamed and trolled constantly while presenting their viewpoints creating a negative atmosphere that encouraged unhealthy debate.
If on the other hand, someone can hold opposing viewpoints without constantly bringing them up as a means of trolling and without allowing them to affect debate and decision making on their part. Then we have no right to restrict their activities on the forum including being a moderator if they want to be one. | Sure you do. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Iron's Rite So what decisions would you make? Either way, no matter what decision you make you are going to piss people off in the course of moderating a website. I don't see how you can't know that.
We have a choice between doing our best to allow a healthy degree of diversity in the forum and banning everyone who has something about them that makes a couple of members queasy.
What choice would you make? Fucking deal with it will you? We're not a bunch of ogres out to destroy the forum piece-by-piece.
Trust me, I even asked if that was part of the job-description when I was made a moderator. | I wouldn't make a racist a mod. Especially not just to try to generate some controversy to get people to post more. Thanks. Find out exactly what to think, next.
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So you would (Or do) run your forum as an exclusive, authoritarian state? de vagorum ordine dico vobis iura
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Originally Posted by Iron's Rite So you would (Or do) run your forum as an exclusive, authoritarian state? | Nah, we just don't mod racists to generate controversy. Thanks. Find out exactly what to think, next.
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That's part of why I think it's good that Synikul was moderated, if you want to know the exact reasons why he was moderated it's really a combination of factors that the person who made him a moderator could best explain.
Either way, by your own admission, you would be running this forum as an authoritarian state where a member could have their rights and opportunities curtailed simply for having views that run in opposition to your own. That may or may not be a bad thing depending on the forum climate and you are within your rights to do so if it's your forum.
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Yes, not modding racists would make a forum an authoritarian state.
What can I say?, you've caught me in my fascism. Thanks. Find out exactly what to think, next.
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After we ban Synikul we'll also have to ban you for being an admitted facist.
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Nah, just don't mod me.
Let's take your ludicrous slippery slope argument the other way instead, that seems fun.
We'll have to give the board ownership to Synikul to make sure everyone knows how un-fascist the board really is, after all, anything less and we'd just be an authoritarian state! Thanks. Find out exactly what to think, next.
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Originally Posted by Peter Plus he doesn't actually seem to do anything, seems to be supermod because ... he is. | i'm a supermod because i've performed the regular mod duties for years and i contribute to a majority of the forums on a regular basis, but even besides that, do you really think i give a fuck if i can close/move/merge/edit a thread? for fucks sake, that doesn't mean shit to me. it never has. i would still post the same way i always have, because that's me. i'm not going to change my personality just because i get to fuck with retards' posts. garg could strip my 'super-rad title' away and you wouldn't even notice. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | |
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Originally Posted by ArSiNiK i'm a supermod because i've performed the regular mod duties for years and i contribute to a majority of the forums on a regular basis, but even besides that, do you really think i give a fuck if i can close/move/merge/edit a thread? for fucks sake, that doesn't mean shit to me. it never has. i would still post the same way i always have, because that's me. i'm not going to change my personality just because i get to fuck with retards' posts. garg could strip my 'super-rad title' away and you wouldn't even notice. | Figured as much. Supermod because you're a supermod, even though now there's no point in you actually being one. Thanks. Find out exactly what to think, next.
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