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i am a rational, tolerant person... i may not like racist mentalities, but you can't fault a man for his thoughts.
as Dyshade mentioned before... if someone does something illegal on this site, we'll take care of it. ___Nick_the_Rogue___ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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Sure you can, I do it all the time (its a board where it displays what people are thinking for a starts, we ban spammers because they think its cool to be paid to pretend they think something of some product or site), didn't really answer the question though. I understand its a trial period he's modding under?
Plus, isn't 'if someone does something illegal on this site' rather silly, I mean, the only thing you could then do anything about is people who illegally share files or post child pornography and that's about it. Which clearly isn't true as people have been banned for all sorts of things less than that (perfectly justifiably too) Thanks. Find out exactly what to think, next.
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have you not noticed i don't post as often as i used to? Have you not noticed I do not attack as much as I used to? This is also the bitch forum where everyone is equal and anything goes. He was made a mod since he often demonstrated a profound ability to debate in that forum regardless of his racial views. I do not condone racism, but judging a man on his racial views doesn't always give them merit. I have a hatred for the human race, but here i am an administrator? Did Garg, or Sire consider this when they made me a mod, then supermod? I doubt it. I did my job here regardless of my views towards half the people on here, as long he does the same then what difference does it make. You can look at it as a metaphor for the fleeting nature of human life, or just chalk it up to my being a sick, bloodthirsty monster. Either way, it's all the same.
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someone sharing child pronography on here would or could be reported to the authorities and let them deal with it. You can look at it as a metaphor for the fleeting nature of human life, or just chalk it up to my being a sick, bloodthirsty monster. Either way, it's all the same.
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Originally Posted by Windigo have you not noticed i don't post as often as i used to? Have you not noticed I do not attack as much as I used to? This is also the bitch forum where everyone is equal and anything goes. He was made a mod since he often demonstrated a profound ability to debate in that forum regardless of his racial views. I do not condone racism, but judging a man on his racial views doesn't always give them merit. I have a hatred for the human race, but here i am an administrator? Did Garg, or Sire consider this when they made me a mod, then supermod? I doubt it. I did my job here regardless of my views towards half the people on here, as long he does the same then what difference does it make. | It has been noticed, you lot are way way better than when Sire was around (even though some of the people are the same), I don't think this is much to do with Garg though, since he isn't here. Don't get me wrong, you should be complimented for it.
On the other hand, I don't think you make a fantastic administrator, well, just in this thread you tried to 'calm someone down' by saying things like the above, nothing personal though, but i thought you handled mod-overlord better. not as well as just moderator, but its not like I expect everyone to agree with me.
On Synikul though i don't want a racist given any position over me, in the same way people don't want their governement representatives to be racist - even if they think their racism doesn't affect their politics much. Of course, putting him in that position doesn't condone his racism, but it makes it acceptable for a mod to be racist if he doesn't use it in his decisions. That isn't acceptable, not just to me, but many people. Frankly I'm surprised every mod went along with it - even for a trial period. Thanks. Find out exactly what to think, next.
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I don't want my government officials to be religious, do I get a choice in that? No matter how i vote I will always here the same god crap sprouted by them. Doesn't really matter in the end cause I doubt you and I will ever agree on pretty much anything. You can look at it as a metaphor for the fleeting nature of human life, or just chalk it up to my being a sick, bloodthirsty monster. Either way, it's all the same.
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Well, you get to vote, you just get outvoted.
It probably doesn't matter though, no, I don't believe anything will change for a while yet, and I don't think I'll be sticking around much anyway. Thanks. Find out exactly what to think, next.
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Originally Posted by Jordyn there are a lot of boards, and not all are into the same things...it'd be awfully boring without such diversity. | Peter already picked this up but seeing as you quoted me I'd just like to repeat, what does that have to do with the mod to user ratio? I felt like pointing out there were 19 mods as it's a huge number, I wasn't commenting on the boards or their styles or the mods themselves at all.
There is about 40 regular and active non-mod users on this board, and nineteen mods.
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I don't really see it as a problem, the idea of having an active mod on every forum is a good idea. The problem is that there aren't really enough posters to support that number of forums, but you can't just merge them because there are so many posts in them. Thanks. Find out exactly what to think, next.
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Well, i started off in conspiracy.. and then got advice and adult added to help out the other mod(s) there.. But then garg did the forum merg and conspiracy went poof!!! And just my luck that dyshade made a topic of the month for conspiracy Just when i lost my internet....
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He's rather open about his dislike of a particular race? What about him? | What about him? We all have had our views on ArSiNiK for ages... I was one of them who wanted him demodded. Realized that really, there is just no talking to anyone with authority here... If your view differs to the almighty, then you get squashed.
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Originally Posted by Nivvie I felt like pointing out there were 19 mods as it's a huge number, I wasn't commenting on the boards or their styles or the mods themselves at all. | We used to have even more than that before the minor clean up. A few hadnt been on in months.
Synikul - I told him once that it would be controversial if he was modded. Judging by the fact that he brought it up a few times afterwards and the way he brought it up, he either didnt agree or didnt like that opinion.
He hasnt done any harm by being a mod and I dont think he ever will. I mostly just want mods to show up, post in and sort out their forums. I dont think about forum PR that much.
I`m all for less forums. Removing the less popular forums wouldnt bother me, might bother other people though. A few were already removed or merged. Work is of two kinds: first, altering the position of matter at or near the earth's surface relatively to other such matter; second, telling other people to do so.
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Originally Posted by Lenina What about him? We all have had our views on ArSiNiK for ages... I was one of them who wanted him demodded. Realized that really, there is just no talking to anyone with authority here... If your view differs to the almighty, then you get squashed.
I really didn't see much of a point of posting my first posts to be honest... The reaon I did was to voice my distate... Fat lot of good that did. | Plus he doesn't actually seem to do anything, seems to be supermod because ... he is. Thanks. Find out exactly what to think, next.
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Originally Posted by Peter I don't really see it as a problem, the idea of having an active mod on every forum is a good idea. The problem is that there aren't really enough posters to support that number of forums, but you can't just merge them because there are so many posts in them. | and this is a common discussion we have, what would you propose we do with so many forums?
i agree there's a lot that can be improved on the board, and we try this and that, but have realized there is no pleasing everybody...if a person is unhappy with one thing, it's changed, making them happy, someone else will be unhappy with the same issue and it's back to square one, defending something you were just defending.
It's been that way since i've been a moderator...and i can see how it's changed from a small group of harpies who have absolute control over what is said and done to unfavored posters or moderators, versus the way it is now...
there are a lot more disagreements, opinions are stated and an almost check and balance type of environment.
everyone gets their opinion heard, there's no fear of being banned for saying something against the majority or the whim of one. things may not get an absolute fix, but something is done, sometimes to everyone's acceptance, usually through a sacrifice of personal feelings, and sometimes it's discussed. nothing more that can be done.
"There is nearly a mod for every two regular users, do we really need that much moderation?"
there was no thought about poster versus moderator ratio, i was not the one that brought it up...it's more like "hey, that board needs someone, who would do well there?" i've moderated with a few moderators that had absolute control, and from my experience, it works better with many moderators...especially with such a varied board...it's a lot easier than having to try and moderate an entire section of board, half of which you have no idea what it's environment it like.
i was stating why i feel there is a need for at least one moderator per board, several moderators for a particular group of boards, and enough people available that if something needs done, it's not left waiting weeks for someone who can institute necessary changes to show up and change it.
...it's frustrating when a poster contacts you with an issue and you can't do anything but tell them..."i'll mention it, but i don't know when someone can do anything about it"
at least now i have a wide selection of other moderators to ask assistance for anything i see that may need a more firm handling, or if a poster has a problem i can't deal with...
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Originally Posted by Peter Plus he doesn't actually seem to do anything, seems to be supermod because ... he is. | as for arsinik, he's been a supermoderater since before i was a moderator, and he's here...redmeat was too...
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Originally Posted by Jordyn and this is a common discussion we have, what would you propose we do with so many forums?
i agree there's a lot that can be improved on the board, and we try this and that, but have realized there is no pleasing everybody...if a person is unhappy with one thing, it's changed, making them happy, someone else will be unhappy with the same issue and it's back to square one, defending something you were just defending.
It's been that way since i've been a moderator...and i can see how it's changed from a small group of harpies who have absolute control over what is said and done to unfavored posters or moderators, versus the way it is now...
there are a lot more disagreements, opinions are stated and an almost check and balance type of environment.
everyone gets their opinion heard, there's no fear of being banned for saying something against the majority or the whim of one. things may not get an absolute fix, but something is done, sometimes to everyone's acceptance, usually through a sacrifice of personal feelings, and sometimes it's discussed. nothing more that can be done.
"There is nearly a mod for every two regular users, do we really need that much moderation?"
there was no thought about poster versus moderator ratio, i was not the one that brought it up...it's more like "hey, that board needs someone, who would do well there?" i've moderated with a few moderators that had absolute control, and from my experience, it works better with many moderators...especially with such a varied board...it's a lot easier than having to try and moderate an entire section of board, half of which you have no idea what it's environment it like.
i was stating why i feel there is a need for at least one moderator per board, several moderators for a particular group of boards, and enough people available that if something needs done, it's not left waiting weeks for someone who can institute necessary changes to show up and change it.
...it's frustrating when a poster contacts you with an issue and you can't do anything but tell them..."i'll mention it, but i don't know when someone can do anything about it"
at least now i have a wide selection of other moderators to ask assistance for anything i see that may need a more firm handling, or if a poster has a problem i can't deal with...
i like having a variety of moderators as much as i enjoy having a selection of boards that condense my interests or mood. that was one of the first things i liked about the board..no particular theme, just sections for different discussions. | Dude, I'm not the DF messiah, I don't have all the answers, I can only point out the really major fuck-ups. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Jordyn as for arsinik, he's been a supermoderater since before i was a moderator, and he's here...redmeat was too...
who else? | Yeah, RedMeat does the whole mod thing, Arsinik pretty much posts toilet humour and insults really. Thanks. Find out exactly what to think, next.
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i remember when this forum ran just fine without moderators and without the bloody "lets be nice to everyone" rule.
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Originally Posted by Spikess i remember when this forum ran just fine without moderators and without the bloody "lets be nice to everyone" rule.
the only reason i see for mods is just to clear up clutter. | I agree with you in part, but as a mod I find it my duty to try to keep the forum alive, it's like a voluntary dedication to keep things moving. Keep things interesting, well at least in the forums I moderate. | |
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