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USMC Sitrep to home - 04-27-04

Forwarded to me by a friend...

For all Marines or those who respect them and their fighting abilities:

This is an email from a son fighting in Iraq to his father. Very Heartwarming indeed. I would not to be on the receiving end of a US Marine Corps Offensive unless I really wanted to die for Allah.

Dispatches from the front. This SITREP was composed by my brother (Lt. Col. Bruce ****, USMC, Ret). Info obtained from his son, PFC Nick ****, USMC, 0331, Wpns. Co. 2/4. Will pass other pertinent details as they become available. Pass to alcon as you see fit.

Semper Fi,

Keith

>>>"****, BRUCE R. CONT (CMWC-RPI-N83" 04/09/04 10:25AM >>>
Kampfbundt,

OK, I'm up out of my hole---at least for now. Nick called last night. His MAP-3 (Mobile Assault Platoon {replaced the 1980's-90's CAAT that was designed for armor threat vice threat they are facing now}) was brought back for a few hours to refuel/rearm/eat chow and he got a few minutes.

What you won't hear on audio-bites "...parts of Falluja/Ramadi still under enemy control..." or from those fat phoney freaks Kennedy and Kerry et.al. is
this: "Dad, we are kicking the living shitake out of those Martha Fockers."

It seems that the group that got ambushed were elements of 'G' 2/4. The rags set up diversional ambush sites elsewhere in Ramadi to draw attention and devoted their main effort on the Golf''s routine foot patrol. Nick has been told that the Ramadi front is designed to take heat off Falluja (2/1 and 1/5...1st recon is there as well). MAP 3 was called to provide relief to 'G.' Nick says that as they moved up, the rags were performing disciplined, as he calls it, "bounding fire and movement---they knew what they were doing---even when we knocked them back, they were 'bounding' " When I asked if he had cranked-off any rounds he replied with disgust, "Uhhh...yeahhhhh" (a version of 'no duh')...Dad our platoon alone has killed over 200 of those (again) Martha Fockers."

Relates that he got 4 in a taxi cab delivering ammo, several in door-ways, as well as several who were actually in friggin trees.

Heroism: One of Nick's Sgts got an AK round through shoulder and disobeyed LT's order for MEDEVAC. Remained with MAP for 4 hours and used an M-203 to continue fight.

Humor: Wounded rag runs in building. Marines pursue, apprehend. Rag is shrieking hysterically. "A big black Cpl puts barrel in rag;'s chest while screaming, 'Shut-the-fork-up!' " Rag grabs weapon. Cpl levels him with a straight right hand to the face. Another Marine pounds rag over the head with a 5-pound bag of flower that breaks, thus creating a Three Stoogesque-scene when white-face rag is led out of house.

USMC Lore: As MAP was entering Ramadi on Wed minaret loudspeakers were pronouncing, "This is the day you die, come forward and we will kill you in name of Jihad, bla, bla." Wpns Company Commander grabs interpreter, puts him on OUR loudspeaker and begins, "Come out and fight you gosh-darn pussy-cats and fight us in the streets like freaking men!" Nick relates that some did and, "We mowed them down."

There was much, much more but you get the drift. Nick was was very tired but pumped. He spoke in a very matter-of-fact tone like the old WWII guys talking about the Tenaru River Banzai at G-canal...no angst or 'what have I done' nonsense. They have been so frustrated and angry losing friends to IEDs and other sneaky shitake that I believe they do not consider the foe as human...and they're not. Nick says he was buddies with many KIA of Tues. A boot camp buddy from Illinois (PFC Morris) was KIA RPG last Sat.

Sun they went in to escort food hand-out amidst screaming and rock throwing. PAO Capt was along for ride and expressed aloud that this food stuff was a swell idea. On the way out, the rags blew an IED and KOed the 'skipper's' vehicle. Two WIA including our young reporter...numerous shrapnel wounds to face and "blood all over the place," according to Nick. I guess 'skipper' has adjusted his stance.

Well, those "devils in yellow leggings" seem to be making an impression. Nick asserts that the rags are figuring out that there is a new sheriff in town and they are becoming more cowed. States that they are "blowing the shitake out of everything." Of course, he knows that the cellar is still full of rats and every day you enter the cellar they will try and bite you...especially those that came to Iraq to die.

I know that he is fine because he signed-off with, "Semper Fi Dad, I love you."

Kelly, out

PS for Col Morris; Please let your network know of this SITREP. You and the other 2/4 Vietvets can be assured that your banner is unfurled and snapping.



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On the other hand, I wouldn't want the US Marine Corp running my country either, so we have to take these things on balance.


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My father, a conservative/libertarian, Bush-supporter, pro-Iraqi war, former Air Force, considers Marines to be little more than cannon fodder (take this in the context that my father was AF - our armed services absolutely lurve each other ).


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On the other hand, I wouldn't want the US Marine Corp running my country either, so we have to take these things on balance.
You should know that Iraq is but a creation of the British empire. The borders in much of the middle east and Africa are drawn along colonial lines rather than along tribal lines because of European colonialism.

Anyway, you miss the point of being there. We went over there to fight an enemy, Saddam Hussien. We did that, mission accomplished. The Iraqis are fortunate that Bush & Blair wish to rebuild their country for them.

A big side benefit is that we are drawing alot of the Islamic terrorists into Iraq where they can be killed. Better that we fight the Islamic terrorists in the middle east than to fight them in Western countries.



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So, how many more hindsight arguments are you going to come up with? We went into Iraq to disarm Saddam... wow, he was already disarmed, just like Hans Blix and co. were saying. I sincerely doubt we're going in out of the goodness of our hearts, something the chickenhawk neo-cons have never been known to have.


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You should know that Iraq is but a creation of the British empire. The borders in much of the middle east and Africa are drawn along colonial lines rather than along tribal lines because of European colonialism.
That's really interesting, (though I think everyone knew it anyway), but I'm not sure why you've put this exciting fact on this thread. Still, it's also interesting to note that the only places where this is not true are Europe and East Asia.

[/quote]Anyway, you miss the point of being there. We went over there to fight an enemy, Saddam Hussien. We did that, mission accomplished. The Iraqis are fortunate that Bush & Blair wish to rebuild their country for them. [/quote]

No, I think it's only fair that we help Iraq get back on its feet. We broke it, so we fix it. If we had left it to anarchy after the war there would have been God knows what horrors. This is part of the job.

[/quote]A big side benefit is that we are drawing alot of the Islamic terrorists into Iraq where they can be killed. Better that we fight the Islamic terrorists in the middle east than to fight them in Western countries. [/quote]

Well, as it apparently only takes 10 of them to bring down the WTC I think you'll have to do a lot of killing if you want to solve the problem that way.


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[quote=Sixgun_Symphony]You should know that Iraq is but a creation of the British empire. The borders in much of the middle east and Africa are drawn along colonial lines rather than along tribal lines because of European colonialism.



Is that not what we are looking at now? A new colonialism of the American Empire?

WHOA! some ugly words there in todays pussy political climate! Does not the US want to "impose stability" in trouble spots around the globe? A "PAX AMERICANA" if you will. I say let em! look at Africa, most countries in Africa have known only hardship, civil war, and economic ruin, scince the withdrawl of Colonial powers. If Iraq were to become an American "colony" the standard of living amoung its people would dramtically increase, they would be given all the rights and freedoms of American citizens ( or would they have to "earn" their citizenship, ala Rome?)

Problem is fundamentalist Muslims are violently oposed to this and will resist until the bitter end. Just ask the British in the Sudan at the end of the 19th Century or in more recent times the Russians in Afghanistan, about the tenacity of a devout Muslim with nothing to loose! So what ? Do we face endless colonial struggles? Well the good news there is that these struggles are short lived and victroy goes to the side with the most resources. And Political clout. So what of poor old Iraq? well i think we are in for a long haul with this one, we are fighting an old school colonial war and no one knows how to do that any more.

Also I feel, as an objective student of history and Canadian, that the shadow of Vietnam looms over everything the US military does. The media is a huge factor in this situation. I saw a reporter on CNN not long ago procliaming "staggering" causalties amounting to 4 dead. This is paltry at best! wait til it really starts and your getting 400 a day! This, I feel, is why the US has not fully stepped up with a major offensive. they dont want body bags on TV.

SO were does that leave it? Well the Iraqis aint goin any where, Abdul wants to defend his home, his family and way of life against ( what he is told are..) the forces of Satan himself. Strong argument for doin hwat they do eh? the cure for this one is AGRESSIVE patrols ( an area the US army is deficiant in) raids and sweeps. They must adopt the Israeli aproach and abduct or kill religious leaders. THEY NEED TO PLAY DIRTY!

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Quick question, dirge - hypothetical situation.

An alien race lands on Earth, and sees how horribly us humans have it, as they are technologically advanced by a few millenia, with an advanced, ideal society.

They decide that, for our own good, they are going to come down and rule us in their own manner, and force their society on us. Any armed resistance will be met, by, obviously, defeat.

Would you be willing to be occupied by this alien race, even if they installed a government of humans to rule?
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I remember a quote in Newsweek by an initially pro-war Iraqi who lived in Baghdad. I'm paraphrasing: "Saddam was evil, yes. But at least he was an Iraqi."

Colonization does NOT work. Can you name ONE civilization that has colonized another and survived in its entirety?

Rome - died.
British empire - colonies had a series of revolutions.
French empire - ditto.
Spanish empire - ditto.
American empire....?


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Dunno whats in it for me guy?!?!?
  
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... - 05-07-04

you can talk all the crap you want about us Marines but when something
needs to get done, guess who they send in? And another thing they are doing
what they have to, to survive over there, and if you want to blame anyone
for whats going on over there, only place to look is the man whos leading the US on this war. Try putting your self in somebody elses shoes for awhile...


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