So let's talk about the tax cuts.
Let's talk about how the tax itself is.

Currently the top 20% get the most of the tax cuts, that is known.
In fact, the top 20% received $5,000 PER PERSON in terms of tax cuts.
However, even with that whopping(Yes, to the average joe that IS whopping) tax cut they still end up paying over 60% of the actual taxes of the country.
Isn't that amazing, since there are far fewer of them than the lower group?

So, who has suffered the most due to the tax cuts? The middle close, which is 40% of the population(roughly). They have had an increase in the amount of the taxes overall that they share with the entire population, although they DID receive tax cuts. Isn't that peculiar?

The very low class, the bottom of the bottom, has also received useful tax cuts, of course none of which can rival the massive amount that the top 20% have acquired.


As I have now proven( http://www.factcheck.org for the facts), the top 20% pay a lot. To receive an over 5k decrease in the taxes they pay is, to the average joe, just downright insane.

What do I think?
Dump the taxes on the bottom class. Those guys don't have anything, period. You can't get blood from a stone.
Remove the tax cuts for the top 20%. If they already pay out about 60%, and of course a small amount of their taxes was 5,000, I'm betting they don't need that 5,000. Why do I think that? Well, the overall tax cut for the top 20% was around the 3%-5% margin. 5% of 100,000 is 5k. If they're making over 100,000 per year they do not need that small 5,000. Give me 100,000 per year and I can probably afford a beautiful multi-bedroom house, a solid DSL connection and goodness only knows how many joyful crap...without having to work. Yet they seem to need every little penny...and that's because they don't know how to handle their money.

This is wrong on so many levels, but it will have to wait for tomorrow for a better reply. I've been smoking again.

See? Smoking is BAD.
Don't smoke Synikul.
It's probably what made you think Republicans are a good party

Everyone who paid taxes got a tax cut, and a few people who don't pay taxes got a cut via the increase in the child tax credit.

And this is almost criminal. It is unjustifiable that this small group of people pay the majority of the tax burden. I don't know about you, but I never got a job from a poor guy. These are the people who create the jobs in this country, both from starting businesses, and their high consumption creates jobs in many industries.

When Bush Senior raised the luxury tax in 1990 it had a consequence. The yacht industry was hit hard, and sales dropped dramatically. Upper middle class people were priced out of the yacht market. Before you say "Whaaaaaa, the rich people can't afford a yacht, cry me a river!" consider that a bunch of middle class guys in Florida who happen to build yachts for a living lost their jobs.

You should get a job writing for the New York Times. This is a good piece of liberal spin. No individual middle class person suffered. They all got a tax cut. The middle-class pays a bigger share of the pie because of the upper class tax cuts. No one "suffered". You know that. Good try, though.

No fucking shit! The more you pay, the more of a cut you got. The last round of tax cuts took a lot of these people off the tax roles entirely. The only way to "cut" their taxes any more would be to give them free money.

It's only considered insane because the left has been trying to convince everyone that they should hate anybody who has a penny more than they do.

It's already been done. Ever heard of Earned Income Credit? Poor people get a bigger tax return than they paid in. It's a form of welfare disguised as tax relief.

And here we see the class warfare. Who the fuck appointed YOU to decide what anyone else NEEDS? It isn't about what anyone needs. These people earned their money, either buy working harder in their own business, or spent more years in school to become qualified for high paying positions. They ought to be able to keep more of the money they earn because the upper class don't consume as much in Government services as the poor.


My opinion:
Eliminate all the loopholes for income tax and make it a flat tax of 10-15%. A budget expert in congress would have to decide on the number, but somewhere in that range would be good. Russia has a 13% flat tax and their economy is growing like gangbusters since they did that. Revenue is up because that eliminated most of the fraud. If Russia can do it, so can we.

Those top 20% are people who make about 200,000 dollars a year, usually.
All you need in order to live your life NICELY is about 50,000 dollars a year. And that's for in the city.
In rural areas you can cut that in half.
Can you explain to me why it is that those people who are in the top 20% often have issues with money, that you tend to see on the news(So and so had to declare bankruptcy because they couldn't blah blah blah)?

The answer is simple.
They don't know how to handle the money.

It isn't my fault that the luckiest people in the world tend to be the most idiotic.
It's also quite simplistic that the bottom rung of the ladder would inherently know how to better handle the money, since they had to survive in a harsher condition.


Where am I going? Just that the top 20% are only whining about how they have to pay the 60% because they're dumbasses.
A flat 13% tax won't help at all, by the way.
Like I said, you can't get blood from a stone. Taxing the low class, those people who make like 5k a year 13% is just going to make them unable to live, period.
Yeah, nice fucking job.

The top 20% are dumbasses? Riiiiight.

I can't figure out if you're missing my point or rejecting it. It doesn't matter how much a person needs, it's about how much they want, and how much they're willing to work to get it. For the gov't to penalize people more when they work harder is just wrong.