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Oh, and I have to agree with Billy on one thing, if you chose Pyrric as your partner in this battle, you're going to lose. Gus is the biggest piece of shit, braindead, lump of gin-soaked flesh this forum has to offer, you're better off going it alone. | |
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One last post, just to mention something on-topic. I was actually IN Europe all last week, travelled around Ireland a bit, and I met nothing but really nice people, barely saw a lick of any anti-american sentiment. I'm sure its out there somewhere, it just wasn't prominent with the folks I talked to. | |
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Originally Posted by thefr0g OK Billy, then lets put down some Examples. Osama Bin Laden attcked New York in the name of religion. The Palestinian/Isreali conflict is basically a conflict started by religion (yes, I know there are many other factors involved). The crusades were fought over religion. Jonestown Massacre was done in the name of religion. The unthinkable actions of the Fred Phelps clan, though not causing any death, is all done in the name of religion.
Those are a few off the top of my head. Please I challenge you to list some examples of atrocities committed in the name of atheism. Atheism is not a religion, its not a cause that anybody can fly a banner for, rather it is a LACK of religion. People don't kill for atheism because there is nothing to kill for. Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, and all the others may have been atheists, thats all fine and good, but their lack of religion was not what drove them. | Actually, subtract the crusades from your list, they were fought to defend Europe from the invading arabs.
Stalin specifically targeted religious leaders, as did Mao and Hitler. Why? because they hated their faith and the threat that thier religions offered. Therefore they were murdering in the name of athiesm. | |
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Originally Posted by thefr0g Oh, and I have to agree with Billy on one thing, if you chose Pyrric as your partner in this battle, you're going to lose. Gus is the biggest piece of shit, braindead, lump of gin-soaked flesh this forum has to offer, you're better off going it alone. | i dont drink gin
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Originally Posted by Billy the Kidd Actually, subtract the crusades from your list, they were fought to defend Europe from the invading arabs.
Stalin specifically targeted religious leaders, as did Mao and Hitler. Why? because they hated their faith and the threat that thier religions offered. Therefore they were murdering in the name of athiesm. | hitler never killed anyone, though, the holocaust never happened, wait....whatever, you two go fuck yourselves, billy is contridictive and the frog is a recluse who doesnt really offer anything besides negativity and selects when he wants to put his two cents in when i ASSUME billy knocks on his door or a.k.a icq. take em all, take em all, put our back against a wall and shoot em, toe to toe, watch em fall, come on boys take em all. | |
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Originally Posted by Billy the Kidd Finding solace in the company of great minds? read up on old P-Dicky then see if you really want to be discussing "mental aptitude" with him. | ohhh, my past, you dont want to sink knee deep in that shit. it dont matter to me, but one of these boys doesnt know i know something about them. morality and past are a real bitch. take em all, take em all, put our back against a wall and shoot em, toe to toe, watch em fall, come on boys take em all. | |
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Originally Posted by thefr0g One last post, just to mention something on-topic. I was actually IN Europe all last week, travelled around Ireland a bit, and I met nothing but really nice people, barely saw a lick of any anti-american sentiment. I'm sure its out there somewhere, it just wasn't prominent with the folks I talked to. | ireland, huh? either they were neutral or they didnt commit much to the war, i cant remember and your wrinkled ass isnt worth the time to check. you're one hundred precent right, bro, im worthless. take em all, take em all, put our back against a wall and shoot em, toe to toe, watch em fall, come on boys take em all. | |
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Originally Posted by Pyrric Dicktory ohhh, my past, you dont want to sink knee deep in that shit. it dont matter to me, but one of these boys doesnt know i know something about them. morality and past are a real bitch. | I know, we know Gus, youre sooooooooo bad... you drink and fight... woah woah woah.... like every other guy. | |
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Originally Posted by thefr0g Those are a few off the top of my head. Please I challenge you to list some examples of atrocities committed in the name of atheism. Atheism is not a religion, its not a cause that anybody can fly a banner for, rather it is a LACK of religion. People don't kill for atheism because there is nothing to kill for. Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, and all the others may have been atheists, thats all fine and good, but their lack of religion was not what drove them. | Cultural Revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Would be a good starting point to look at. When people talk of the freedom of writing, speaking or thinking I cannot choose but laugh. No such thing ever existed. No such thing now exists; but I hope it will exist. But it must be hundreds of years after you and I shall write and speak no more.
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Originally Posted by Billy the Kidd Actually, I have read Gus. Lots and lots. You need to try it some time. most of Europe was controlled by the Catholic Church, however SPAIN (where the inquisition took place) was not.
the Muslims sacked and controlled Spain from 711AD until the Catholic Monarchy headed by Ferdinand pushed them out in 1499AD.
The Inquisition didn't begin until 1478. So for those 800 years the Muzzies were in control of Spain, not only Spain but much of Eastern Europe too, why do you think all the Albanians are muzzies?
Learning Gus, try it.
The Inquisition was merely a tool used by the rightful rulers of Spain to expunge foreign invaders. It worked, Spain shortly fell back into the hands of the Spanish Monarchy, just in Time to give ole Christibol Columbo his ships for his cross ocean voyage. | What kind of Modern Revisionist Propaganda have you been reading? The Jews were the ones involved in and targeted by the Spanish Inquisition as well as those that professed their Faith. de vagorum ordine dico vobis iura
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Gus it took you 4 posts to say.... what exactly? I honestly have no idea. I do like the idea of being Billy's attack dog though.... even though we agree maybe 25% of the time at best.... | |
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Maybe 15% from what I see.
When you have any form of government which can see the damage that can be done by religion in whatever form it comes in said government will usually attempt to subdue those religions. This has nothing whatsoever to do with the faiths of those involved and leading the government but more so with the perpetuation of that government free from religious idealogies.
The United States Constitution is a very good example of this. The 13 colonies had over 20 different Christian factions and they knew that were they ever to unite they had to resolve the religious issue. They did so by seperating the United States Government from any religious control while allowing any citizen to practice whatever religion they chose.
Communist idealogies see religious beliefs as an enemy to the perpetuation of their governance. There-fore they will often attempt to do away with any religious organizations which might tempt the populaces loyalties away from the government.
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Originally Posted by Iron's Rite What kind of Modern Revisionist Propaganda have you been reading? The Jews were the ones involved in and targeted by the Spanish Inquisition as well as those that professed their Faith. | Yes, thats true, although not to the same extent that it was Muslims. 2 birds 1 stone. Its not revision, its fact. The revisionist bullshit is what we were all taught in school, that ya now the muzzies were just minding thier business not bothering anyone when that evvvviiiilllly white christian spanish monarchy decided to massacre them all.
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Originally Posted by Dyshade Maybe 15% from what I see.
When you have any form of government which can see the damage that can be done by religion in whatever form it comes in said government will usually attempt to subdue those religions. This has nothing whatsoever to do with the faiths of those involved and leading the government but more so with the perpetuation of that government free from religious idealogies.
The United States Constitution is a very good example of this. The 13 colonies had over 20 different Christian factions and they knew that were they ever to unite they had to resolve the religious issue. They did so by seperating the United States Government from any religious control while allowing any citizen to practice whatever religion they chose.
Communist idealogies see religious beliefs as an enemy to the perpetuation of their governance. There-fore they will often attempt to do away with any religious organizations which might tempt the populaces loyalties away from the government.
It really boils down to simple politics which have shit all to do with religion. | Exactly, it boils down to power.
Communists don't want religious people because they wont worship the state.
The Spanish inquisition was about retaking spain from arabic invaders. Guised in the name of religion. This is what I was getting at earlier, then Fr0g told me, that no they were really doing it for the religion, and that the communists werent killing religious people and leaders for thier beliefs. | |
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Originally Posted by Billy the Kidd Yes, thats true, although not to the same extent that it was Muslims. 2 birds 1 stone. Its not revision, its fact. The revisionist bullshit is what we were all taught in school, that ya now the muzzies were just minding thier business not bothering anyone when that evvvviiiilllly white christian spanish monarchy decided to massacre them all.
Spanish inquisition = good thing. Learn it. | Where did you read this shit? Stormfront? de vagorum ordine dico vobis iura
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Originally Posted by Iron's Rite Where did you read this shit? Stormfront? | Not prepared to challenge the revision you learned huh? What the fuck else would the inquisition be about? Is it a coincidence that the battles of Grenada occurred less than 20 years later? Fucking dolt. | |
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Originally Posted by Billy the Kidd Exactly, it boils down to power.
Communists don't want religious people because they wont worship the state.
The Spanish inquisition was about retaking spain from arabic invaders. Guised in the name of religion. This is what I was getting at earlier, then Fr0g told me, that no they were really doing it for the religion, and that the communists werent killing religious people and leaders for thier beliefs. | frog told you, huh? im sure he has a phd in nail gun compressors or air compressors in general. you boys can go fuck one another. take em all, take em all, put our back against a wall and shoot em, toe to toe, watch em fall, come on boys take em all. | |
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