It's finally here. I've read articles about this for years. Some say the new F22 fighter will be the last manned fighter plane we develope.

This is fucking WRONG!

It's part of the morality of war. What makes a war honorable, even when you're guaranteed to win, is the fact that we still have to send our people out to fight, and possibly die. If people don't have to risk their lives to fight a war, it will just be murder.

It will also be too easy. For America to go to war, a majority of people have to be convinced that it's worth the loss of American life. If there's no risk of losing a fellow American, possibly one you know and care about, then "war" will be declared far more frequently than it is. What the hell? If all you do is send out your robot death squads, then we'll just do that to anyone who pisses us off over any stupid little thing.

we all know it is only a matter of time.

Lower the amount of personnel and you increase profit and decrease cost.

Speaking of making things too easy....

The thing is synikul, since man has developed over time, so has war. In every act of warfare, a little less elbow grease if you will is neccisary, because man finds new and efficient ways to kill other people. Just look at how war was thousands of years ago...Men would sometimes have to march months, if not years in rugged and harsh landscapes, wearing heavy armor and swords which they would later have to use to kill the enemy cold blooded and personally. Nowadays, the slaughter of millions can boil down to just the convenient push of a few buttons while you sit back and sip on your finest cup of joe... I guess my question Synikul is why is it now that efficency in killing is just now getting to you? Is this where you would just draw the line?

Either way it's all downhill from here. No more reason not to wage war against a de-humanized enemy . . . Fuck this looks bad . . . Even worse than nukes in a way. They don't carry the threat of world destruction limiting their use and can therefore be used at will to threaten the world. The best case scenario would be robot-wars with no more human involvment but people would no doubt be in harms way.

Giving a man more efficient tools to kill with is one thing, taking the man out of the process is another.

skynet... SKY-NET!!!

GlobalSecurity.org is ominous enough.

LOL!!!

That's exactly what I was thinking. Oh yeah, and the Terminator-story stealing movie The Matrix.

Why don't we just make it even easier on ourselves. We can input all the available data of two combatants into a computer and run a simulated scenario that will project the outcome of a war. Then it can print out an official document of surrender for the loser to sign just as soon as each side sends off a certain number of men to assisted suicide centers so we remove the proper casualties...it's much more humane and civilized that way.

No, no, what you want, is that instead of creating vast armies, what we want is the ability to create giant manned robots to fight it out and then whomever wins, their country wins. You could have, say, a giant robot that shoots its own fist at the other guy.

I'm not sure what we would call the people inside the robots though, I was thinking maybe Robo-jockey's? Although Robot Jox, or Robojox sounds better

Rock-em-sock-ems.

In a strange and humorous way, you're all getting the point I was trying to make.

If you don't laugh at things like this you'll end up huddled in a dark corner pissing yourself.

...what point was that?

...we'll be replaced with machines in the next decades...


...no honor in sending robots to fight out wars!!...

yes, that was the point

When you trust a machine to hoover the room then you can give start to think about giving it a rocket launcher!!!!

What's wrong with sending robots out to fight?

Dominance and devistation without need for risking man power. It's the ultimate military aim.

Honour is not something that applies to war any more it's all about who has the best toys and who can put the best spin on the war.

Wars would be more readily backed when the only real cost was financial rather then in life and blood of troops

it would also be highly motivating as who would want to fight any enemey that was relentless, never gave up, never tired, never slept, never worried about it's friends or family, never felt pain, was immune to psychology and generally out to kill you a squidgy flesh thing while it was a lot hard even to dent.

Neon

If real fleash and blood people aren't willing to get their hands dirty doing the killing, and risking being killed, then the war shouldn't be fought. That's the one thing that insures that wars are only started when enough people in a nation believe that the war is for a good reason.

You're absolutely wrong. Without honor, it isn't war, it's just murder.

That's the problem with using robots.

Everybody would want to fight that enemy. For a human, blowing up robots doesn't carry the emotional baggage of killing other people, even people you hate.