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Liberal and conservative are different ends of the spectrum of the same ideology, green is a whole different ideology.
No it isnt. The Green party I know is a 1 trick pony,, one of the many tenticles of the left wing. Stop trying to sou8nd like Ralph Nader.
  
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Funny how conservative and conservation have the same root. There’s nothing wrong with JohnyZupers statement about the green party, but You and Billy don’t seem to understand what the green party.

I honestly don't know that much about the Green Party, I do know that Ralph Nader is a piece of shit. My point is that anyone who compares the USA to Nazi Germany, after all the trouble our guys have to go through just to fight a war without fear of being arrested when its over, needs to get knocked the fuck out.


  
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Liberal and conservative are different ends of the spectrum of the same ideology, green is a whole different ideology.

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I honestly don't know that much about the Green Party, I do know that Ralph Nader is a piece of shit. My point is that anyone who compares the USA to Nazi Germany, after all the trouble our guys have to go through just to fight a war without fear of being arrested when its over, needs to get knocked the fuck out.
amen.

though i can understand where people get confused. the simple mind would believe that hitler, wanting to (as well as expand germanys borders) put his own beliefs of a perfect land and perfect rule and ideal world with his own belief of ideal people (hitler youth, no jews etc) and, creating a better world and suchlike (him also being supportive of the volkswagen, the cheap easy running simple car for the people) with the us wanting to stop such things as communism and dictatorship and have everyone equal and free under the same big banner and same ideology of the us, and both of them going to war (although under completely different circumstances, nazi germany invaded in order to make their country greater and the us going to war in order to remove "terrorist dictatorships" and suchlike) some people, rather stupid people, might get these things confused. with all thoughts, there are relations. but saying the us is like nazi germany, is fucking retarded.

invasion + genocide vs removing dictator and trying to install government and bring peace

i do think going to war for the wrong reasons was stupid, many wrong things have happened, putting saddam in power in the first place was probably not the greatest of ideas, but the idea of bringing people together united is a good one. we've just yet to find a way where we can do this without death and suffering, due to our own nature.


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Wasnt the Baathist party modeled after the Nazi party? So in essence, its like the USA was beating down the Nazis and rescuing the Jews all over again.
  
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Wasnt the Baathist party modeled after the Nazi party? So in essence, its like the USA was beating down the Nazis and rescuing the Jews all over again.
Saddam would have never risen to power if not for the Nazi's. Saw a great documentary on it on some History channel show. Arab alliances with the Nazi's in WW2 directly lead to Saddam's rise..... TO POWAH.


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Saddam would have never risen to power if not for the Nazi's. Saw a great documentary on it on some History channel show. Arab alliances with the Nazi's in WW2 directly lead to Saddam's rise..... TO POWAH.


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No it isnt. The Green party I know is a 1 trick pony,, one of the many tenticles of the left wing. Stop trying to sou8nd like Ralph Nader.
Your tenacity for continually displaying you gross misunderstanding of the green party is profound. Your sounding like Rush Limbaugh. Why is that Neo Cons have to see every thing as black and white, good and evil, left and right, they all ways have to have some thing or someone one to heat and fear. I’d like to know where your getting your information on the green party?


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Your tenacity for continually displaying you gross misunderstanding of the green party is profound. Your sounding like Rush Limbaugh. Why is that Neo Cons have to see every thing as black and white, good and evil, left and right, they all ways have to have some thing or someone one to heat and fear. I’d like to know where your getting your information on the green party?
I know about the green party thats where im getting my info. I was in colelge in 2000 when the green party explosion was goiong apeshit for the election. I heard all the talking points for Nader and LaDuke. Its horseshit. the Greenies are a liberal tenticle of the democrat side of the aisle. period. This is also why they sucked up all the hardcored leftist and communist voters in 2000 and cost Gore the election.

You did know Neocon was a codename for Jews, a negative one. Why do you hate Jews so much? Get some fuckin perspective.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/gottfried/gottfried65.html

Why do you libs pray on the weak minded? Why do you use fear tactics? Why do you treat people like children? I know personally why, but why do you low level libs with no real official affiliation fucking take the bait and let them use you as an unwitting pawn in thier game of global domination? I will tell you now, I will never submit to the 1 world power under the liberal hierarchy. I despise communism and socialism and all the other filthy ism's you people employ in your little game of enslavement of the world. Take your disgusting liberal ideas and shove em.
  
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I know about the green party thats where im getting my info. I was in colelge in 2000 when the green party explosion was goiong apeshit for the election. I heard all the talking points for Nader and LaDuke. Its horseshit. the Greenies are a liberal tenticle of the democrat side of the aisle. period. This is also why they sucked up all the hardcored leftist and communist voters in 2000 and cost Gore the election.

You did know Neocon was a codename for Jews, a negative one. Why do you hate Jews so much? Get some fuckin perspective.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/gottfried/gottfried65.html

Why do you libs pray on the weak minded? Why do you use fear tactics? Why do you treat people like children? I know personally why, but why do you low level libs with no real official affiliation fucking take the bait and let them use you as an unwitting pawn in thier game of global domination? I will tell you now, I will never submit to the 1 world power under the liberal hierarchy. I despise communism and socialism and all the other filthy ism's you people employ in your little game of enslavement of the world. Take your disgusting liberal ideas and shove em.
Thanks Billy that really clears things up, I’m convinced that I should be a conservative, so what’s your advice on fighting the liberals.


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Thanks Billy that really clears things up, I’m convinced that I should be a conservative, so what’s your advice on fighting the liberals.
Luckily we dont have to "fight" them persay. Theyre dying out as a breed due to thier love of rmassacreing thier babies in the womb, embracing homosexuality and not breeding in general. All we gotta do is stem the tide for the time being, give them exposure for what they are and let them slowly wither away. Like John Edwards ex blog mistress.
  
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For the most part I agree with you, All thou we get news faster today, it seams to be more censored, There’s plenty of photos of dead US troops from WWII, but in Iraq there are rules against even taking pictures of coffins

Have you seen flags of our fathers, an interesting story about manipulating the truth
I guess it depends on where you get your news... I try and check several sources of news not just mainstream American news syndicates(ie. fox, cnn, msnbc).... I like bbc, reuters... associated press. Then if its something I am interested in, I will do a search and try and find local news on the particular topic. Maybe as a society we get more censored news, but I think if you want to find out about something, it is (generally) available to you.

I haven't seen Flags of Our Fathers yet, would you recommend it?


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So pretty much everybody agrees that if Hitler invaded Poland today, the UN would pass a resolution, and Hitler would keep rolling right through the rest of Europe. Our war effort would get bogged down in paperwork and debate. The hippies on the homefront would advocate just talking to him, and hold demonstrations, saying that we should bring our troops home from this illegal and immoral war. Meanwhile, the Jews are exterminated, Allies react too late, and the Nazi's win.

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Luckily we dont have to "fight" them persay. Theyre dying out as a breed due to thier love of rmassacreing thier babies in the womb, embracing homosexuality and not breeding in general. All we gotta do is stem the tide for the time being, give them exposure for what they are and let them slowly wither away. Like John Edwards ex blog mistress.
Billy that's great to hear, I can't believe how blind I was as a liberal. I'm all ready seeing the advantages of being conservative, with enemies as dumb as liberals I'll have more time for important things like shooting. Billy thanks for saving my life from the abyss of liberal thinking

Why are there no smilies with guns, those damned liberals most likely.


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I guess it depends on where you get your news... I try and check several sources of news not just mainstream American news syndicates(ie. fox, cnn, msnbc).... I like bbc, reuters... associated press. Then if its something I am interested in, I will do a search and try and find local news on the particular topic. Maybe as a society we get more censored news, but I think if you want to find out about something, it is (generally) available to you.

I haven't seen Flags of Our Fathers yet, would you recommend it?
2 days ago I would have agreed with you, but now that Billy (God bless his soul) has convinced me of the errors of my now past liberal ways. The virus of liberal news has spread so far, it’s now all most safer to not read any news at all, the only news paper I trust is the wall street journal, it’s all about the money!$!

As for the movie it’s a great lesson on how to manipulate public opinion with just a single photo, it all so show just how little importance the truth has and that it just gets in the way, and the last lessen is that dead or alive the propaganda value of a photo is worth much more the lives of the people in it, I wish people would just shut up and die for their country


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Billy that's great to hear, I can't believe how blind I was as a liberal. I'm all ready seeing the advantages of being conservative, with enemies as dumb as liberals I'll have more time for important things like shooting. Billy thanks for saving my life from the abyss of liberal thinking

Why are there no smilies with guns, those damned liberals most likely.
I have to say that I am really impressed with your discovery of the truth. Now that you oppose liberalism as the evil it is, you can join me in lobbying for a flat tax, and also the abolition of affirmitive action. Love the sig/avy too. Keep up the good work.
  
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I hate a lot about Conservatism..... Religion and the Death Penalty to name a few..... but fucking commie liberals piss me off a lot more nowadays.


  
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I have to say that I am really impressed with your discovery of the truth. Now that you oppose liberalism as the evil it is, you can join me in lobbying for a flat tax, and also the abolition of affirmitive action. Love the sig/avy too. Keep up the good work.
Now that were on the same side of the barrel we can get some where talking politics. I’m all for a flat tax, nothing wrong with a fair fight, and it still has the concepts of the survival of the fittest, if we all play by the same rules, then it’s not my damned fault if some one can’t figure out how to survive. Correct me if I’m wrong, there may still be liberal poison in my veins, but I may be willing to help some one out who is making an honest effort, were not talking a free ride here. Some one wants a free ride sure I’ll give them a free ride to a river and a pare of cement shoes

I think affirmative action is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of, how can you stop racism if you make rules saying you have to help some one because their not equal due to race. I’m sure some one out there is thinking you racist bastard, sorry but there’s only one human race, and I judge people by their actions, abilities, and needs. I know there are real raciest out there that are too stupid to realize there is only one human race, we have laws against harassment, murder, and hate crimes, and if the laws are not up help then that’s corruptions and something should be done about that too. But what ever the law is it should apply to every one equally and there for no one can blame their problems on me.

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