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06-04-07

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How many of you know that Gallagher (That's right, Sledge-a-matic, that one), once ran for Political Office in California? One of his ideas was a project to dam off a portion of the Gulf of Mexico in order to give the area a fertile crescent that would boost the economy. Crazy huh?
Isnt the Gulf salt water?
  
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It is far too fucking difficult, time consuming, and expensive to immigrate here legally, so naturally people are going to go around it.
Yet we have more people emigrating, legally, to the U.S. annually than any two of the EU nations combined. Go figure.

People go on about this immigration thing like we're a nation that doesn't want anyone coming in. When people oppose this bill, the race card is immediately played...usually by a member of La Raza, whose name, translated into English is..."The Race." Ok, who's the racist here? The thing is, if you look at a breakdown of this bill, and what it proposes, you can see that it's severely flawed. You're better off coming into the country illegally than you are going by normal channels.

There's something severely dysfunctional about the way we're looking at immigration in this country, and I can't figure out why. It's one thing when you've got people coming in who want to be U.S. citizens. It's another entirely when you've got people coming in and funneling money down south into the failing Mexican economy while taking advantage of social programs which are funded by the tax dollars of citizens. Complete bullshit.

You want to solve the immigration problem, it won't be through any legislation here. Help Mexico fix their economical problems (help them, don't throw money at them...that seems to be Bush's answer to everything) and in the meantime, secure the border.


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I happen to be involved in a legal immigration procedure from an EU country, and I can tell you first hand.... its fucking ridiculous. The waiting periods and long lines are absurd. If we want to create more jobs for Americans, lets get more fucking people working for immigration and processing these petitions faster.


  
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He's right. My fiance and I looked into him coming here as opposed to me going there. While an application for a British spousal visa might take a couple months, you're looking at a couple YEARS at least if you want to bring someone here. Even if you intend on marrying that person, it's still ridiculous amounts of red tape.


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Isnt the Gulf salt water?
I know the northen portion, meaning the portion along the coastlines of MS and AL is fresh water. How a portion can be fresh and another portion be salt water, I don't know. But I'm pretty sure it's fresh water from all the stream, rivers, estuaries that feed into it.


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I happen to be involved in a legal immigration procedure from an EU country, and I can tell you first hand.... its fucking ridiculous. The waiting periods and long lines are absurd. If we want to create more jobs for Americans, lets get more fucking people working for immigration and processing these petitions faster.
Yeah thats true, it took my girlfriends family 6 years to get thier visas to get here. That doesnt however mean people are entitled to come here. I am all for fixing the visa application process, AFTER we seal off the borders with the military and then deal with the 20 million illegals here currently. Until that time, people will just have to deal with the system as it is.
  
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I know the northen portion, meaning the portion along the coastlines of MS and AL is fresh water. How a portion can be fresh and another portion be salt water, I don't know. But I'm pretty sure it's fresh water from all the stream, rivers, estuaries that feed into it.
Oh I know that the Mississippi delta areas etc are brackish water ( a mix of salt and fresh) but I mean, the areas surrounding Mexico itself, i'm pretty sure its salt, its gotta be.
  
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So what exactly is so bad about mexican immigration?
Mexicans aren't on my bigotry list, but there are too many of them coming in too fast. They have a radically different culture, and we cannot assimilate them all without destroying American culture. Mexicans have historically assimilated well, usually they don't even speak Spanish when they're two generations removed from the immigrant, but that doesn't happen when there are enough new arrivals that they form their own communities. Then when you add the La Raza Reconquista bullshit on top of that situation, it can get ugly fast if we don't do something to keep the lid on it.
  
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