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Originally Posted by Billy the Kidd Or to the discovery of a new world, Columbus?  | What assumption did Columbus make to discover the new world?? He assumed nothing..... he "knew" he was heading to india using a new route...... that is why we call indians indians...... he thought he was in India
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Originally Posted by Dyshade What assumption did Columbus make to discover the new world?? He assumed nothing..... he "knew" he was heading to india using a new route...... that is why we call indians indians...... he thought he was in India
Compassion is a hard thing to hand out when you are faced with outright abuses of the system.... like the lady with ten kids who pops another one out when they threaten to take away her WIC and food stamps...... | No he assumed that if he traveled west from Europe he would hit India. Since noone had done it at that point it wasnt a fact. | |
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Meh... still has nothing to do with everyone assuming Jordyn and IVD are bums.... sometimes even the most with it people will hit snags and need to vent
Case in point--- Your columbus thingie..... you are exactly right... he assumed he could hit india and his assumptions were proven wrong.... most assumptions are.... especially assumptions about people.....
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Originally Posted by Billy the Kidd I am a white male who makes less than 100,000 dollars a year. There are NO tax breaks for me.
And the fact that my social security taxes are funding all the geriatrics who made shitty choices pisses me off too, which is why I am all for SS reform. Private accounts for all, so I can take care of me and my own. I dont need to be feeding old douche bags in Florida.
And REGARDLESS of all that I dont want MORE added to my shoulders to fund. So you entire point was baseless anyway. You seem to think that because my SS pays for old people I shouldnt mind paying for welfare rats and other people who are too lazy to fucking work when they are pregnant. | private accounts...that's an idea i could agree with, i'd happily let them keep all my taxes they take out of paychecks now, put it into an account and let it be used for medical when my children are young, give me an option to shift the needs of that account to their education...at that point the whole ideal of getting a good paying job, paying for their own insurance and being able to do what i, did not in life...would satisfy me.
i can do fine on my own...i know better than to try and climb a tree, but i don't like the idea of my children not being able to be children...because accidents happen, and i can't afford those.
my point is that you are already paying for welfare, we all are...
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Originally Posted by Billy the Kidd No he assumed that if he traveled west from Europe he would hit India. Since noone had done it at that point it wasnt a fact. | actually the idea is catching on that the vikings were actually here before columbus. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | |
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Originally Posted by Dyshade What assumption did Columbus make to discover the new world?? He assumed nothing..... he "knew" he was heading to india using a new route...... that is why we call indians indians...... he thought he was in India
Compassion is a hard thing to hand out when you are faced with outright abuses of the system.... like the lady with ten kids who pops another one out when they threaten to take away her WIC and food stamps...... | that's one of the reason's i'm so frustrated that i don't have any medical...maybe it is a little bit of a green eyed monster that these people get everything handed to them for having babies, while my husband and i work, take care of our two child family, the best we can...and still are lacking one last basic need, for our children.
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Originally Posted by Dyshade Meh... still has nothing to do with everyone assuming Jordyn and IVD are bums.... sometimes even the most with it people will hit snags and need to vent
Case in point--- Your columbus thingie..... you are exactly right... he assumed he could hit india and his assumptions were proven wrong.... most assumptions are.... especially assumptions about people.....
Anyways..... | Yeah but his assumption worked out for all of us, youre here know what I mean? | |
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Originally Posted by Jordyn private accounts...that's an idea i could agree with, i'd happily let them keep all my taxes they take out of paychecks now, put it into an account and let it be used for medical when my children are young, give me an option to shift the needs of that account to their education...at that point the whole ideal of getting a good paying job, paying for their own insurance and being able to do what i, did not in life...would satisfy me.
i can do fine on my own...i know better than to try and climb a tree, but i don't like the idea of my children not being able to be children...because accidents happen, and i can't afford those.
my point is that you are already paying for welfare, we all are...
i have been looking into this fair tax thing...maybe that could be an opportunity to balance out some of the system between those who can afford medical, those who can't and those who rely on the government to provide it for them... | Oh trust me though If I could cancel SS I would. I trust myself to save on my own.
And the fact that I am paying unjustly for some losers to not work doesnt make it ok. We need to cancel welfare, SS, and public education funding. Let me keep my own money I will decide where to school my future kids. I will save money for my old age. | |
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Originally Posted by Jordyn actually the idea is catching on that the vikings were actually here before columbus. | And a bunch of Mongolian cave people found it before the Vikings, whats your point? My point is that not all assumptions are bad. Columbus assumed there was a trade route to be had by going west, he bumped into the Americas instead, it seems to have worked out pretty well. | |
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Originally Posted by Dyshade Assumptions often lead down a miserable road of unanticipated problems. | what a gem of wisdom. here is another if you dont want you personnel life involved in a discussion dont bring it up.
frankly i think Jordyn is comendable she apparently has managed to keep a family togther under difficult circumstances
however i dont think we should just be giving stuff away nor do I think I should be responsible for insureing that her family or any other enjoy's life (as Jordyn put it) welfare and all that other junk is killing this country it makes people lazy and fosters an attitude of failure and despair. | |
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Originally Posted by Billy the Kidd Oh trust me though If I could cancel SS I would. I trust myself to save on my own.
And the fact that I am paying unjustly for some losers to not work doesnt make it ok. We need to cancel welfare, SS, and public education funding. Let me keep my own money I will decide where to school my future kids. I will save money for my old age. | then, there'd be nothing to complain about...i'm guessing that means you support a fair tax, ideal? To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | |
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Originally Posted by theburningbush what a gem of wisdom. here is another if you dont want you personnel life involved in a discussion dont bring it up.
frankly i think Jordyn is comendable she apparently has managed to keep a family togther under difficult circumstances
however i dont think we should just be giving stuff away nor do I think I should be responsible for insureing that her family or any other enjoy's life (as Jordyn put it) welfare and all that other junk is killing this country it makes people lazy and fosters an attitude of failure and despair. | we enjoy our life, because we choose too...that has nothing to do with the medical system being so...outrageously unbalanced, in such an industrialized country...even people with everything, can be incapable of enjoying life. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | |
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Originally Posted by Billy the Kidd Oh trust me though If I could cancel SS I would. I trust myself to save on my own.
And the fact that I am paying unjustly for some losers to not work doesnt make it ok. We need to cancel welfare, SS, and public education funding. Let me keep my own money I will decide where to school my future kids. I will save money for my old age. | wow, i agree with you!
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Originally Posted by Billy the Kidd It wasnt free. I paid for it, and youre not welcome. | Alright listen, I worked until I wasn't able to work anymore while pregnant with my daughter, my husband worked as well but we couldn't afford the bills my pregnancy was racking up. It's not my fault you have nothing better to bitch about, buddy.
In truth, the state of indiana paid for my shit, not you, not anyone else on here, and quite honestly, my ex is paying for it now, it's part of the child support decree. Now, had I been able to work and retain my own insurance, I wouldn't have needed the medicaid.
You have very severely pissed me off with your comments which is what I assume you were intending, job well done. ~Don't choose me because I am faithful.
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Originally Posted by WildAngelOfEve Alright listen, I worked until I wasn't able to work anymore while pregnant with my daughter, my husband worked as well but we couldn't afford the bills my pregnancy was racking up. It's not my fault you have nothing better to bitch about, buddy.
In truth, the state of indiana paid for my shit, not you, not anyone else on here, and quite honestly, my ex is paying for it now, it's part of the child support decree. Now, had I been able to work and retain my own insurance, I wouldn't have needed the medicaid.
You have very severely pissed me off with your comments which is what I assume you were intending, job well done. | Who pays for Indianas bills when they default because its filled with white trash? Thats right the Feds, and that comes right out of my paycheck. | |
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I just love how you're so willing to call me white trash.
It's alright honey, I understand your juvinile anger. ~Don't choose me because I am faithful.
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Im older than you and I said Indiana was filled with white trash, I didnt call you white trash per say. For all I know you could have been Asian or Mexican trash.. | |
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Originally Posted by Jordyn we enjoy our life, because we choose too...that has nothing to do with the medical system being so...outrageously unbalanced, in such an industrialized country...even people with everything, can be incapable of enjoying life. | exactly how is the medical system unbalanced?
hmmm choices arent we lucky that we can make them....even if some of them were bad.......I wonder what other choices you could make or have made about your current lack of healthcare insurance. You could make a choice now to get it the other approxiametly 70% of people that make under $20k manage to get it, when you actually look at the numbers it really isnt that egregious anyways. I wish I had the choice to pay or not pay for welfare ect. I think a large portion of America would actually choose to help you out (I know I would give some to welfare) if they had a choice its the not being able to choose part that sucks | |
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