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Kerry 'Flips Off' Vietnam Vet (shameful) - 06-01-04

Kerry 'Flips Off' Vietnam Vet

Democratic Senator - and certain presidential nominee - John F. Kerry gave the middle finger to a Vietnam veteran at the Vietnam Memorial Wall on Memorial Day morning, NewsMax.com has learned.

Ted Sampley, a former Green Beret who served two full tours in Vietnam, spotted Kerry and his Secret Service detail at about 90 AM Monday morning at the Wall. Sampley walked up to Kerry, extended his hand and said, "Senator, I am Ted Sampley, the head of Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry, and I am here to escort you away from the Wall because you do not belong here."

At that point a Secret Service officer told Sampley to back away from Kerry. Sampley moved about six feet away and opened his jacket to reveal a HANOI JOHN tee-shirt.

Kerry then began talking to a group of school children. Sampley then showed the tee-shirt to the children and said, "Kerry does not belong at the Wall because he betrayed the brave soldiers who fought in Vietnam."

Just then Kerry - in front of the school children, other visitors and Secret Service agents - brazenly 'flashed the bird' at Sampley and then yelled out to everyone, "Sampley is a felon!"

Kerry was referring to an incident 12 years ago when Sampley confronted Senator John McCain's cheif aide, Mark Salter, in a Senate stairwell after McCain repeatedly offended POW families at a Senate POW hearing. Sampley, whose father-in-law at that time was MIA in Laos, followed Salter into the stairwell and, when they emerged, Salter had a bloody lip and a broken nose.

Sampley's group, Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry, has garnered huge national attention and been featured in the New York Times, the Washington Post and on MSNBC's Scarborough Country. Tens of thousands of Vietnam vets have registered their opposition to Kerry through Sampley's group.

Clearly Sampley has gotten under Kerry's skin once again.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...1/225546.shtml


All of those brave men who died, and are on that wall would not want a traitor, who sold out his country to the Viet Cong, sliming their good names.

Bravo to Sampley!



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06-01-04

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06-01-04

Flipping off a veteren on Memorial Day is not the way to win the veteran vote. No wonder they are all voting for Bush.



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06-02-04

so because a politician flipped off an asshole... this is news?

and what's this betrayer to the vietcong bit?


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06-02-04

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so because a politician flipped off an asshole... this is news?

and what's this betrayer to the vietcong bit?

Kerry sold out his coutry to the Vietcong.

He was at a meeting sponsored by the North Vietnamese where assasinations of six US Senators was being planned, and Kerry refused to report it. He then lied about it for years, but when the FBI said that they followed him there, he then changed his story.

He called his fellow veterans murderers.

He has been honored by General Giap, and the people of North Vietnam for helping them defeat the United States.


He is a traitor.



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06-02-04

Ted Sampley is head of the Vietnam Veterans Against Kerry and is responsible for the 1992 fake photo of John Kerry shooting an American MIA in Vietnam with the caption: Kerry eliminates another MIA from his discrepancy list. Sampley has a long history of working against both John Kerry & John McCain dating to the POW/MIA hearings. He even served jail time for starting a fight with John McCain's staff. Sampley was also given a restraining order.

Sampley is a terrorist.

Is this reported anywhere but in traitorous NewsMax? Did this even happen?


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06-02-04

Just because some lunatic in a silly t-shirt says something, it doesn't make it true.



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Just because some lunatic in a silly t-shirt says something, it doesn't make it true.


The fact that it's true makes it true.



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The fact that it's true makes it true.
how circular and self supporting...


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06-03-04

so, he's a hero for harrassing kerry...i guess that makes the iraqi insurgents hero's for harrassing bush in his attempt to take away their home?



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06-03-04

A Vietnam veteran is allowed to flick off another Vietnam veteran without the issue of veteran status being brought up, since they cancel out. Especially when one of the two is a violent, psychotic asshole (hint: I'm not talking about Kerry at this time).


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A Vietnam veteran is allowed to flick off another Vietnam veteran without the issue of veteran status being brought up, since they cancel out. Especially when one of the two is a violent, psychotic asshole (hint: I'm not talking about Kerry at this time).

Not when one is a hero, and the other a traitor.



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so, he's a hero for harrassing kerry...i guess that makes the iraqi insurgents hero's for harrassing bush in his attempt to take away their home?


Bush isn't a traitor like Kerry.

The Iraqi terrorists are not Americans.

See the difference?



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Not when one is a hero, and the other a traitor.

Kerry is a traitor though he has 3 Purple Hearts, One Silver Medal, and one Bronze Medal????

Tell me Lawson... how many purple hearts do you have???? how many times were you wounded in action????

Kerry was wounded 3 times while fighting for this country... that pretty much gives him the right to speak out against it if he likes too.... people are not traitors for disagreeing with policy.... sorry... but it does not work that way....



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Bush isn't a traitor like Kerry.

The Iraqi terrorists are not Americans.

See the difference?

the difference is bush is spending billions and billions on iraq, and what is he spending to improve the life of americans?



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Kerry is a traitor though he has 3 Purple Hearts, One Silver Medal, and one Bronze Medal????

Tell me Lawson... how many purple hearts do you have???? how many times were you wounded in action????

Kerry was wounded 3 times while fighting for this country... that pretty much gives him the right to speak out against it if he likes too.... people are not traitors for disagreeing with policy.... sorry... but it does not work that way....


Kerry lied about the actions that led to those medals, according to the very men who served with him, and the Doctor who treated him. He killed an unarmed man to get his Silver Star, and his 3rd Purple Heart was a scratch, caused by his own incompetence. Kerry used that wound to run away and hide.

Then he became a traitor when he got home.



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the difference is bush is spending billions and billions on iraq, and what is he spending to improve the life of americans?

Billions on the Education Bill

Billions on the Prescription Drug Benefit

Billions on the Tax Cut for Working Families

Billions on the War on Terror to keep you safe


You should be grateful that you are being carried by other tax payers, instead of whining so much.



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06-05-04

Lawson you sound almost like a Zealot ...

As fer the bird issuse , Self is more prone to VOTE for Kerry for keeping that exchange real !
We NEED a PRES. With the BALLS to do things that need to be done !!

The Bushes are no HEROs !!

(((Billions on the Education Bill))) YET in TEXAS the state run by the BUSH ,schools teach only what they need to so kids can pass the national average test ! ( FACT ! ) Been there seen it !
(((Billions on the Prescription Drug Benefit))) you mean that reform that just made it harder to get cheeper drungs from Canada since the woking class cant afford to buy the drugs here ?
((((Billions on the Tax Cut for Working Families )))) Yea just when our country NEEDS its money the most we just give it back to the ppl for a quick economy boost ,Against even the advice of GREENSPAN !?! ..an yea I got one of thoose checks too !!( toltal BS !)
(((((Billions on the War on Terror to keep you safe))) Ha ha !! Thats such a LOAD !!! thats about as real AS THE WAR ON DRUGS ! ..lets see didnt Bush try to borrow a page from Hitler with his fink squad ideas !!

Come on Man think NO POLITITION IS A SAINT !! but before you praise one look at what he's realy all about !!!!

History Lesson ...
Bush Sr.: War ,Debt.term 4 Years ...
Clinton :Stop war ,pull country out of Debt..Cause Scandle , term MAXIMUM *!!
Bush Jr : Back to WAR ,BACK in Debt ! Term 4 years

I'll take a POT SMOKING ,Womanizing ,Lier who gets in trouble doing what comes naturaly, And at least seemed to try to make the world a better place , Over The Uncareing Lier whos sole goal is to PROFIT with the BLOOD of our countrys best ...Their being killed by the ammo they fire while fighting a war where we spend billions to rebuild the citys of our so called foes while they still shoot at us?? ( FUCK THAT !! )


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06-05-04

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Not when one is a hero, and the other a traitor.
Explain again (I seem to have missed it) what Sampley did to be considered a 'hero'?

And Kerry was right in flipping him off, if it had been me I would have done more than that, presidential candidate or not.
I mean, what would you do if some asshole comes up and tells you 'you do not belong here'?
Fuck off, how could anyone be more of a wanker? Anyone with that sort of self-supporting, unbased righteousness should be shot.

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Is this reported anywhere but in traitorous NewsMax? Did this even happen?
I'll second this. I want to see some more sources to prove this even happened.
I could go and write an article now saying that George Bush has been seen killing babies and kittens with his bare hands and it would be as true as this because there is no other material supporting your claim.


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