Ahh... and now we begin to see the true nature of any so called "democracy"
which Amerika's Administration claims to pursue...

Its just the sort of thing you expect from a Totalitarian State - or one being presently occupied by another nation...
Suppression of human rights, such as "Freedom of Expression".

Interestingly enough, one is "free" to wear clothing depicting Charles Manson on it, in Amerika... - how does this differ?

Im sure theirs been a mistake since the US Military presence in Iraq is a liberating and not an occupying one. Perhaps he was just a victim in the war against terrorism, a heroic victim in the Iraq’s battle for political independence and democracy. BAH! im sure Rodney King’s family sorrow was eased knowing he died in a free and democratic nation.

Yes, well I'm sure that each and every guy over there is simply a drone in the service of our totalitarian government, and simply acting on the whims of our dictatorial leadership. They couldn't possibly be humans succumbing to the stress of having to squat on foreign soil while extremists pick them off by ones, twos, and tens...rather than being at home with their friends and family as most soldiers at war would rather be.

and iraqis NEVER lie.
do we remember baghdad bob?

So your claim is that;
Rodney King NEEDED TO DIE.
The Police HAD TO KILL HIM.

... because he died in a "free and democratic" nation ?

So r u trying to justify any state sponsored MURDER, as "necessary",
for the existance of a "free and democratic" nation ?

who gives a fuck?!

Rodney King is dead??

When did that happen?

blame bush...

Yes and knowing full well that one Iraqi was beaten to death with the invading forces publics showing appropriate moral outrage (quite possibly by accident or due to congenital defect) is far more attrocious then 36 soldiers deliberately killed (UK and US) and then their bodies dragged through the streets as trophies and then publically defiled and mutilated and this being supported and lauded by the Iraqi's

Neon

I don't understand that neon - that's like when the neocons take criticism of Israel to mean praise for Hamas and company. One can express criticism of side A without supporting side B.

What I'm saying is that yes, one Iraqi has died whilst being beaten to death and we show outrage, yet we seem to show no outrage over the mutilation of our troops and the fact that this was supported by a majority (Or at least a large minority). If this is the sort of treatment the troops are facing, is it any wonder they're a little on edge.

It is a war. People die in war. We show moral outrage at needless killing, but there is no recipricol shame from the people we're there to liberate in acts which by their very nature far far exceed.

Neon

You didn't see the outrage over the Americans being killed? There was DEFINITELY outrage, tinged with disgust, sadness, despair, on American media and the general public. It was front-page news everywhere, with extremely graphic pictures.

I think this incident is pretty nasty, but I don't think it demonstrates that Iraq is under 'totalitarian' control. I'm quite sure it wan't sanctioned by Paul Bremer. It's out-of-control, undisciplined squaddies allowing themselves to be dragged down into the mire by their situation.

Rodney King didn't die.

To answer your own inane post: what happened to the Rodney King cops?

Hint: they were crucified, which shows that they were acting on their own and were duly (indeed, excessively) punished. If they were true agents of the "Amerikan government," there would be no trial and no apology.

Ditto, any errant US servicement. Heard of My Lai?

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but there wasn't outrage in Iraq. Yes there was outrage in the UK/US but there wans't any outrage there

there is no reciprocation of outrage over warcrimes committed upon the other side.

Neon

Actually i do think the beating to death of one iraqi is less justified. The american army are guests on their soil and they are not wanted, i refuse to believe if someone was to invade your country you wouldnt try and get them out by any means.
The US army are in a position of power and trust and they are violationg that and defacing their moral highground daily.
The "we're there to liberate the iraqi people" shit really is beggining to look more and more stupid isnt it?

However as a force of liberation surely you would assist them in your freedom not hinder them. Afterall, they're essentially there ot help. Albeit said same help comming to be of the greatest fiscal beneift of the US.

If they were a force of oppression then there would be far higher civilian casualties. Lets face it, because the forces are trying to do this in the most humane way possible, they're being murdered and brutalised and deflied unneccesarily.

The story would be entirely different if the simple trick was to walk inot a mosque and gun down everyone inside. For one, there would be few terriorsts as there would be no civilians amongst whom they could hide.

My disgust at this is not at the fact that the Iraqi's are protesting at the troops getting out (fair enough), but that they're allowed to perpetrate acts of inhumane evil without any sort of internal moral outrage yet expect sympathy and demand retrobution when a far lesser act, indeed one which for all intensive purposes is not premeditated, is perpetrated against them.

Neon