she was already president for 8 years. she cant run again.

Hahahahahahahahahaha...

Holy shit that post is mint.

I she does run she has a hell fo a chance of winning.

Yeah her campaign will have been running for 3-4 yrs by the time 2008 rolls around... LOL

I think if enough people vote for Hillary Clinton it will make me more of a misanthrope than I already am.

feh, it makes my stomach sick just thinking about it.

Hillary is the most devisive person in American politics. If she's on the ballot, we'll see a new definition of "negative turnout".

I can't think of a worse Red vs. Blue political situation than this one:

Jeb Bush vs. Hillary Clinton

How do you choose the lesser of two evils in that situation?

It won't be Jeb.

I could see Condi running before Jeb. I still think Giuliani would be a decent choice for the Reps. Maybe McCain. But still, the possibility of a President Gingrich horifies me to no end.

The next Republican presidential candidate will be a real conservative because the base will revolt if he or she isn't. If Condi is a real conservative, she'll win the primary overwhelmingly, we don't know much about her besides her views on foreign policy, which are good. Giuliani and McCain can not win the nomination in the Republican party today, Giuliani is a liberal, Northeastern republican, and he's smart enough to know he doesn't have a chance. McCain pissed off every conservative in the republican party with his behavior during the confirmation fight of some of the lower court appointments, and they will not forget that during the primary.

Start looking at Sen. George Allen of Virginia, though I'm hoping Tom Tancredo can make a good showing.

Giuliani would be my hope, though I don't think there's much chance of him winning the nomination. I like the idea of a liberal republican being in the white house. Either way it would be interesting to see him in the mix. He keeps saying that he's not running next year, but he'll think about it in a couple years. And, I think if he played his media right, he could easily win the election. Especially against Hillary. (Course to make it to the election...)

Bush is a liberal republican. Spend spend spend spend, lets start a new war on black poverty, welcome to the new welfare state. we need an old time conservative who believes in cutting spending.

I'm tired of both parties, we need something entirely new.

I agree, fr0g, lets move to japan and just go poon hunting. Fuck politics.

I disagree. I think him and his administration has got themselves in deep. All that's left now is grasp at straws and try to stack the deck for the future.

Uhh liberals by definition expand government and spend spend spend. Bush does this. He is a liberal Republican.

Clinton on the other hand who cut welfare was a more mdoerate democrat. Although he did like expanding government too, although not as much as Bush.

I know, I was just aiming for a worst-case scenario.

Bush definitely is a liberal republican, he just knows when to throw the Right a bone to shut them up.

Clinton is not a moderate, he's a flaming liberal, but he was obsessed with the opinion polls, so that curbed much of his liberalism.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought you were a Libertarian. If that's true, then why would you want a left leaning anybody in the White House? Conservative republicans are the closest thing to Libertarian that you can get in mainstream politics, which is one of the reasons I like them.