I understand that the FBI is supposed to be fighting the "War on Porn" however I wasn't aware that they extended their battle beyond the actual physical acts & into the mind of individuals.

I don't think the woman should be prosecuted for this, however taking a look at some of the subjects she wrote about, I can understand how they might have felt "cause for alarm" especially given how hard the US Government is coming down on the adult industry.

What are your thoughts on this? Where do you think they should draw the line? There was a similar case along these lines already within the last year or so, about a kid who wrote a fiction story and was under suspicion of plotting to gun down his peers, based on what he wrote for a school assignment (a creative writing class I believe)

Should Governments be monitoring and censoring imagination? Discuss.

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2005-10-07

Red Rose Stories Shut Down by FBI
By: Tripp Daniels
Posted: 8:10 pm PDT 10-7-2005

PITTSBURGH - In the burgeoning War on Pornography, the feds have determined the written word to be among the enemy.

On Oct. 3, erotic fiction website Red Rose Stories was shuttered by its owner, an apparent victim of obscenity charges.

“Red Rose Stories is a dead site,” owner redrose posted on the home page. “The FBI has succeeded in closing me down.”

redrose noted that federal agents raided her home while she was away, taking computer equipment and diskettes that contained all of her files and site information.

“I am being charged with ‘obsenities,’ and face charges for having posted” original fiction about “bestiality, water sports, scat, bondage and domination, slavery, threesomes, orgies, and sex with children,” red rose continued in her apologetic website posting. “It is considered obscene and is prosecutable. Trust me on this. I found out the hard way.”

The statement goes on to note, “When it comes to free speech, sex stories are not covered. The only legal sex stories are those that involve a man and a woman consenting to missionary position sex in a dark room.”

Although most of the members area of the site has disappeared, “chat will remain, as will some parts of the forum,” redrose wrote. “However, please do not post anything of sexual or political nature in the forum. They men in black are watching, and with the Patriot Act, who knows what they might find threatening now days.”

On Wednesday, two days after redrose closed her website, Web servers containing all of the content for the website MaxHardcore.com were seized by FBI agents in Altadena, Calif., as part of an obscenity investigation surrounding five video titles produced by the site’s parent company, Max World Entertainment. The servers were returned to the company on Thursday, and the website was back online the same day. The U.S. Justice Department’s Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section is investigating Max World.

I think it's ridiculous and makes me even more paranoid about the US government.

O-kay...

Does that mean we can lock up Tom Clancy and throw away the key? He is permenantly fantasising about threats to the US government blah blah blah. Fiction and fantasy is the province of someone's mind - if they had any intention of carrying out whatever acts they describe they would have to be pretty fucking stupid to splash them all across the internet beforehand. It's things like this that make me glad I don't live in the US.

1984 anyone?

It's good to know that in an era with a global flu pandemic imminent, ongoing carnage in Iraq, Hurricane's devastating the South Coast, terrorist flying planes into buildings, economic supremacy shifting eastwards at mind melting speeds, crime and poverty spiralling out of control, a pensions crisis looming, people in foreign lands starving to death and foreign nations practicing genocide while we turn a blind eye, good old George Bush is focused on the issues that really matter. Like sticking his nose into everyone elses business and meddling in their sex lives...

Who the hell does he think he is? He, of all people, should know from the 12 step program that you never take another persons inventory for them...

He didn't use a 12 step program when he quit drinking. He used Jesus.

That could be why he still exhibits so many of the characterisitics one would expect to find in an alcoholic... He's a man who would benifit greatly from the 12 step program as a human being, although it would of course finish him as a politician...

same difference.

yeah, this whole thing makes my tummy turn. Who the hell does bush think he is?

Holy crap. By that token, DF could even be shut down.

Wow. The entire internet could be prosecuted.

THEY COULD BE WATCHING RIGHT NOW. *disables Fserv on IRC*

you've GOT to be kidding me... purple prose is now on the hit-list?

Not to demean redroses position but I htink something more than she is letting on is going on there. the FBI prosecutes Child Pornography with very hostile actions and she pretty much admits writing child pornography fiction which would lead me to believe that they probably found something in order to actually sieze everything.
Maybe she had some child porn on her puter??

or it could be teen romance purple prose... and honestly, what's wrong with that?

does it mean that catholic school girl roleplay is child pr0n? so if my girl wears a plaid skirt and pulls a Gilmore on me, i'm going to jail for teh m@$$ buttsechs?

I doubt it.... hell i do it all the time in Utah and hav eyet to be busted.... now if it was a real Cathollic schoolgirl who was 13 or so YEAH BUSTED!!!!

so what's the difference? a FICTIONAL story about getting "extra credit" isn't having sex with a REAL 13 year old catholic school girl... so why is it "obscenity" and worth prosecuting over?

unconnected thought:

i remember a case where a teen girl was prosecuted for taking PRIVATE pictures of her and her teen boyfriend having sex... she, a legal child, was prosecuted for creating child pornography when it was A.non-distributed and B.legal for them to have sex.

In other countrys, you can go to jail for telling a joke.