Clinton admits to perjury
Clinton revises timeline of Lewinsky affair
Book's account differs with grand jury testimony

Tuesday, June 22, 2004 Posted: 5:28 PM EDT (2128 GMT)

(CNN) -- In his new memoir, former President Clinton says his "inappropriate" encounters with Monica Lewinsky began when she claimed they did, during the government shutdown in November 1995.

That account contradicts his August 1998 testimony before a federal grand jury that investigated the case.

The discrepancy between testimony by Clinton and Lewinsky about the timing of the affair was one of the points that led the House to impeach Clinton for providing false testimony to the grand jury about "the nature and details of his relationship with a subordinate government employee."

In his 1998 testimony, the former president said, "When I was alone with Ms. Lewinsky on certain occasions in early 1996 and once in early 1997, I engaged in conduct that was wrong." That timeline would have put the start of the affair after Lewinsky had completed her White House internship and had taken a staff job.

But on page 773 of his book, "My Life," Clinton said, "During the government shutdown in late 1995, when very few people were allowed to come to work in the White House and those who were there were working late, I'd had an inappropriate encounter with Monica Lewinsky and would do so again on other occasions between November and April, when she left the White House for the Pentagon."

"For the next 10 months, I didn't see her, although we talked on the phone from time to time," he said.

In her grand jury testimony, Lewinsky said their sexual relationship began on November 15, 1995, at a time when government officers were shut down because of a budget dispute between Clinton and the Republican Congress.

Independent counsel Ken Starr, in his report to Congress recommending impeachment, said the motive for Clinton to lie about the timing of the affair "appears to have been that the president was unwilling to admit sexual activity with a young 22-year-old White House intern in the Oval Office area."

The first of the two impeachment articles approved by the House accused Clinton of providing "perjurious, false and misleading testimony" to the grand jury. During Clinton's trial in the Senate, House impeachment managers pointed to the conflicting testimony as evidence that Clinton lied.

The Senate, however, did not convict Clinton of any of the impeachment charges.

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The more he lies, the more he trips himself up!

And he's going to end up being the Reagan of the Left. Sorry Lawson!

Hrm. Lying about what you do with your interims in your offtime hardly compares to lying about stuff that drags a nation into a war...

Not a chance.




Reagan Trounces Clinton

WASHINGTON - Most Americans say that Ronald Reagan, who died this month, will be remembered as a better president than Bill Clinton, who is trying to improve his image with a new autobiography, according to an Associated Press poll.



Seven in 10 say history will judge Reagan superior, based on the survey conducted one week after the Republican icon's state funeral and nonstop media coverage focused not only on the ceremonies marking his death at age 93 but also on a lifetime of achievements from Hollywood to the White House.




Out of office just 3 1/2 years, Clinton recently returned to the limelight with a prime-time interview to publicize his memoir, "My Life," which goes on sale Tuesday. The expectation long before the 957-page book reached the stores was for a tome that would provide insights into the sexual scandal with a White House intern and impeachment, the nadir of the Clinton presidency.

"I think Reagan will be remembered as the better president, just because of the kind of man he was," said Judy Humphrey, a 66-year-old retiree from Palmyra, N.Y. "I didn't have a lot of respect for Clinton because of his personal life, though he may have done some good things."

Some 83 percent of those questioned said they have a favorable view of Reagan as a person, according to the poll conducted for the AP by Ipsos-Public Affairs. The former president completed his two terms in office in 1988.

A majority of 53 percent said they have an unfavorable view of Clinton, while 41 percent rated him favorably. In January, people were about evenly divided in their view of Clinton as a person.


Not Too Popular With the Ladies

Although stocks soared and the deficit fell during Clinton's tenure, many Americans associate the Democrat with the marital infidelity that nearly toppled his presidency, impeachment by the House and the Senate vote that saved him. Women were slightly more likely than men to have an unfavorable view.

"People give Clinton credit for the economy, but what happened in the White House was so morally reprehensible that people hold his personal behavior against him," said Robert Shapiro, a political science professor at Columbia University. "When people make the comparison, they see a big difference between the two men."

Reagan often gets credit for the end of the Cold War, even though former President George H.W. Bush was in office when the Soviet Union collapsed. The military buildup during Reagan's eight years and pressure on the Soviets are cited as contributing factors in the demise of the superpower.

By a 2-to-1 margin, those surveyed said Reagan was more effective at communicating his ideas to the American people than Clinton. "Reagan has certain ideals and principles and he conveyed those ideas clearly," said Vid Kondratas, a 33-year-old Springfield, Va., computer programmer who considers himself an independent. "People knew what Reagan stood for and what his principles were."

Clinton remains popular among Democrats and unpopular with Republicans, while independents are slightly more inclined to view him negatively. In the 2000 presidential election, Vice President Al Gore distanced himself from Clinton, in large part because of those perceptions. This year, Democrat John Kerry, who doesn't share the same ties Gore did, plans to have Clinton speak on the first day of the Democratic National Convention.

"Reagan had a lot of grandiose ideas, but Clinton just kind of told it like it was," said Ben Rivers, a 60-year-old independent from Orlando, Fla. "In years to come, I think people will realize that Clinton did better for his country than Reagan did."

Asked whether Reagan or the current president, George W. Bush, will be remembered as a better president, 76 percent said Reagan and 12 percent said Bush. Three-fourths of Republicans said Reagan, about the same margin as for Democrats and independents.

People were about evenly divided on whether Clinton or Bush will be remembered as the better president.

Republican Shannon Miller, of Dover, Ohio, said Bush would be more kindly remembered because "he hasn't had as many scandals."

Andrea Parron, of Harmony, R.I., a self-described "bleeding-heart Democrat," said that given the choice of Clinton or Bush, "I'd take Clinton back in a heartbeat. But I would kick him in the groin so he could keep his mind on business."

The AP-Ipsos poll of 1,000 adults was taken June 18-20 and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.



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Wait a decade .

So you take 1000 people at a population of what... 400 million I believe? I'm not sure what the current US population count is... Probably more. In any event, 1000 is WAY too small a test to get accurate results, that 3% sampling error is going to be higher...

Apart from that, Clinton is still fresh in the memory for what he did with miss Lewinsky. Reagan is fresh in the memory for his death. That taints the results... Because of the emotional factors behind the situation. Take this poll again after Clinton dies, if there's still 1000 people left by then... and compare results.

Shite, clinton is like nixon.. he got caught..... other than the subject of thier respective offenses, they are about the same.. LOL

When the bible gets out of the government, then we will see them as near that... the same.....

But Bush's lies are excusable because they don't deal with only his personal life, right?

PS:
When linking to articles trying to prove an opinion via fact, try to make sure the article includes more facts than opinions.