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Bush Supporters Still Believe Iraq Had WMD or Major Program, - 10-22-04

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What the hell is wrong with these people? Hell, if Rumsfeld coming out on national TV saying otherwise doesn't do it, what will?


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10-22-04

They believe what makes them happy..
Hell, you actually think a republican is open minded enough to change their mind?? HAHAHA


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10-22-04

I like to remain optimistic enough to believe that any human being, regardless of political or religious affiliation, still retains the basic faculties of reason.


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I like to remain optimistic enough to believe that any human being, regardless of political or religious affiliation, still retains the basic faculties of reason.
Even me?
  
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Even me?
You more than any other conservative I've dealt with on this board. To be honest, I've got more faith in your faculties than, say, Corporate Pig.


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10-24-04

I'm speechless.
  
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10-26-04

Wow. That simply proves how uneducated the majority of Bush supporters really are...


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10-26-04

NBCNEWS: CACHE OF EXPLOSIVES VANISHED FROM SITE IN IRAQ BEFORE TROOPS ARRIVED...

The NYTIMES urgently reported on Monday in an apprent October Surprise: The Iraqi interim government and the U.N. nuclear agency have warned the United States that nearly 380 tons of powerful conventional explosives are now missing from one of Iraq's most sensitive former military installations.

[The source behind the NYT story first went to CBSNEWS' 60 MINUTES last Wednesday, but the beleaguered network wasn't able to get the piece on the air as fast as the newspaper could print. Executive producer Jeff Fager hoped to break the story during a high-impact election eve broadcast of 60 MINS on October 31.]

Jumping on the TIMES exclusive, Dem presidential candidate John Kerry blasted the Bush administration for its failure to "guard those stockpiles."

"This is one of the great blunders of Iraq, one of the great blunders of this administration," Kerry said.

In an election week rush:

**ABCNEWS Mentioned The Iraq Explosives Depot At Least 4 Times
**CBSNEWS Mentioned The Iraq Explosives Depot At Least 7 Times
**MSNBC Mentioned The Iraq Explosives Depot At Least 37 Times
**CNN Mentioned The Iraq Explosives Depot At Least 50 Times

But tonight, NBCNEWS reported: The 380 tons of powerful conventional explosives were already missing back in April 10, 2003 -- when U.S. troops arrived at the installation south of Baghdad!

An NBCNEWS crew embedded with troops moved in to secure the Al-Qaqaa weapons facility on April 10, 2003, one day after the liberation of Iraq.

"The U.S. Army was at the site one day after the liberation and the weapons were already gone," a top Republican blasted from Washington late Monday.

The International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors last saw the explosives in January 2003 when they took an inventory and placed fresh seals on the bunkers.

Dem vp hopeful John Edwards blasted Bush for not securing the explosives: "It is reckless and irresponsible to fail to protect and safeguard one of the largest weapons sites in the country. And by either ignoring these mistakes or being clueless about them, George Bush has failed. He has failed as our commander in chief; he has failed as president."

A senior Bush official e-mailed DRUDGE late Monday: "Let me get this straight, are Mr. Kerry and Mr. Edwards now saying we did not go into Iraq soon enough? We should have invaded and liberated Iraq sooner?"

Top Kerry adviser Joe Lockhart fired back Monday night: "In a shameless attempt to cover up its failure to secure 380 tons of highly explosive material in Iraq, the White House is desperately flailing in an effort to escape blame. Instead of distorting John Kerry’s words, the Bush campaign is now falsely and deliberately twisting the reports of journalists. It is the latest pathetic excuse from an administration that never admits a mistake, no matter how disastrous."

Why is the U.N. nuclear agency suddenly warning now that insurgents in Iraq may have obtained nearly 400 tons of missing explosives -- in early 2003?

NBCNEWS Jim Miklaszewski quoted one official: "Recent disagreements between the administration and the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency makes this announcement appear highly political."

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Wow.

380 TONS of explosive were trucked out of Iraq while we were busy playing footsie with the UN for over a year.

I wonder what else could have been trucked out of Iraq....
  
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10-28-04

Patience, for no one really knows when the weapons were stolen, or how. Some people say that they were easily taken while we "stalled" to go to Iraq, and some people like the staff officer at the Pentegon think otherwise...
“The movement of 377 tons of heavy ordnance would have required dozens of heavy trucks and equipment moving along the same roadways as U.S. combat divisions occupied continually for weeks prior to and subsequent to the 3rd I.D.’s arrival at the facility.” According to him, an operation like that that would have required huge multi ton trucks would have been easily detected...And it wasn't.


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10-28-04

first... i notice that NBC news did NOT comment on their OWN REPORTERS OBSERVATIONS... just that they were there. and i not that it is a TOP REPUBLICAN official who is quoted as saying the weapons weren't there...

as such, since Hussein's posse wasn't exactyl the bastion of truth and was quite literally corrupt, were there ever any explosives to begin with? EVER? or were they just another lie on the books meant to keep subversives and Iran in check (you know, like all those fake WMDs)?


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10-28-04

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10-29-04

A local TV News station apparently condradicts White House claims that the weapons were stolen prior to the arrival of US forces. In April 18, a local news station followed US forces to Al-Quaqaa and filmed them observing huge quantities of explosives. Then notices that the soldiers did not do such a great job locking them up once they left.

http://kstp.dayport.com/viewer/viewerpage.php?Art_ID=159660/


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