Originally Posted by Synikul

What is it with people bitching about how bad it is? Do you have any idea how this would look to the majority of the people on the planet, to see Americans acting like spoiled children? Oh yeah, the majority of the people on the planet are too fucking poor to have a computer with internet access, so they can't see this. Welcome to poverty in America!

Originally Posted by Synikul

You're profoundly full of shit.

For starters, we're talking about America, right? This might be tough for you to understand, but THERE IS NO POVERTY IN AMERICA! It's been eliminated entirely, and if you don't think I'm right, you need to travel the world a bit. I've seen some godawful poverty-stricken third world shitholes, and I have no patience for spoiled brat Americans bitching about their pathetic little lives. In America, "poverty" is when you only own one TV, your car is over 5 years old, and some gubbamint program buys your food and pays your rent.

You also assume equality as the basis for capitalism, which is absurd on it's face, and your solution is to spread the misery equally. You've taken parents out of the equation entirely, it's like you're using an extreme form of individualism that doesn't even take family relationships into account. If a child is pissed off about being "poor"(see above), they should direct that anger at their parents for being lazy, or making bad decisions with their money.

Originally Posted by Synikul

And I think the inheritance tax should be abolished. That money will be taxed normally when it becomes part of the assets of the inheritee. That's one of the things that's killing family farms and small business in America.

The farmer's land is worth 6 to 8 figures, depending on its proximity to a large city, but it only produces a middle-class income, which slowly dwindles from one generation to the next as land has to be sold off to pay the death tax.

Let's throw BIG OIL into the mix here. The average gas station with convenience store is a franchised multi-million dollar property, but it produces ONE middle class income for the owner, and a few low class incomes for the employees. When the owner dies, it will likely be sold off to pay the death tax on the property value alone.

But I suppose you could set limits on the money involved, which we do, that opens up the criticism of hypocrisy. If we're for inheritance for the poor and middle-class, why not for the rich and successful?

Originally Posted by Uncletiggs

My car is over 10 years old. I work at least 40 hours a week. I have 1 TV and live in an over sized studio. I still struggle to make ends meet. I don't actually qualify for state {the government doesn't do it anymore} bennies. But i can get a few dollars {18 last time i checked} for food if i spend 20 hours of my time filling out the required paperwork.. But Hey, they'll take the comp and TV to sell off for those few bucks on help i got if i die before my son can get anything..
Yet some shitehole who went to the best schools and did JACK for anything for the same amount of time can live for free just by making sure his dad has $$ when he bites it.. And the lawyers will make sure he pays virtually squat for taxes on it..






Fine.. But increase the tax rate by the amount of actual cash involved. tax the cash assets by Say... 43% and the properties by just 5% increasing per properties owned up to say... 30% for more than 5.. Unless they can show a proved interest in the development of their life and said properties over the proceeding Hmm, 3 years maybe? then it would prove that the inheritor actually was involved in the acquiring of the inheritance..

Originally Posted by Uncletiggs

My car is over 10 years old. I work at least 40 hours a week. I have 1 TV and live in an over sized studio. I still struggle to make ends meet. I don't actually qualify for state {the government doesn't do it anymore} bennies. But i can get a few dollars {18 last time i checked} for food if i spend 20 hours of my time filling out the required paperwork.. But Hey, they'll take the comp and TV to sell off for those few bucks on help i got if i die before my son can get anything..
Yet some shitehole who went to the best schools and did JACK for anything for the same amount of time can live for free just by making sure his dad has $$ when he bites it.. And the lawyers will make sure he pays virtually squat for taxes on it....

Originally Posted by Dark Messiah

Homo Erectus was about 2,000,000 years ago, just for fun.

Originally Posted by Uncletiggs

*sighs* Actually, i think i have it good. But none of you will probably be able to see that even though it's typed right here in front of you. I have been that third world person here in america. I appreciate all that i have. And i have earned it. Not had it given to me.
But that has nothing to do with my thoughts on the subject of this thread. I gave my opinion. If you don't like it, give a better option..

Originally Posted by Uncletiggs

Well, if I earned what i have, why shouldn't they? *shrugs*

Originally Posted by Uncletiggs

Well, if I earned what i have, why shouldn't they? *shrugs*

Originally Posted by Synikul

Sorry, I like you, but I've walked through garbage dumps in third world nations where the locals build little shacks from scraps they find in the dump, and their dirty small children, wearing rags, would run up to us and beg us for food. They liked the Army's garbage, and they'd always crowd around the truck, which is why our support guys had to send along people like me to keep things under control. You learn after the first time that if you throw one MRE to a kid because that's all you have, whoever catches it will probably be maimed in the mass melee that follows it.

So.......

I HAVE NO FUCKING PATIENCE FOR ANY GOD DAMN SPOILED BRAT AMERICAN WHO PISSES AND WHINES ABOUT HOW BAD HE HAS IT!!

Originally Posted by Dyshade

It is all subjective. Even with the opportunities available in the USA some do not have the savvie or brains to take advantage of them. Some people are just plain fucking nuts and do not have the sanity to do so. As such we do have poverty here. It has not been abolished. We have starving children, and adults who cannot muster enough cash to even pay for one meal a day.
So I have not a clue as to where you might be living where the lights are always bright and everyone always has 3 square meals. In reality poverty exists everywhere irregardless of how someone got there or the opportunities available to get oneself out of there.