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Anti-war or Anti-America? - 04-09-03

WND probe exposes violent, revolutionary leadership of 'peace' movement.


The commie peaceniks are just the political front to many of the terrorist networks in the world. Sometimes the peaceniks themselves are the terrorists (ala the "Weathermen Gang")



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04-09-03

Moderators, can we limit the number of useless propaganda sixgun shits all over this forum? i mean the guy started 50 fucking threatds with 50 similar articles and he only posted like 60 times, its ridiculous.
  
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i think it's good idea too. i feel like i have to reply to every one of his stupid threads.


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04-09-03

sixgun, i read that link you posted, and if for a moment it were true, then this war is only small portion of your war on terrorism. you're going to have to war on your own.

but in the end, who says the current american system is the perfect one? why cant it be changed. obviously there are people in america that don't agree with it. does it mean that it is your personal duty to change their minds, and if they don't agree, they better pretend to? that sounds like a dictatorship to me.


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04-10-03

He wants facism, and will justify it by any means necessary . . . Because people have actually been standing up and exercising what constitutuional rights still remain in this country this has been a golden oportunity for him and his Nazi brethren to denounce those who do not agree with the war as traitors . . . In a way I suppose we are traitors, traitors to his facist cause . . .
I'm not to angry with him though, by posting propaganda he's just following his proud traditions of the good ol' third reich.
Notice how all the swill that he post reads like Mein Kampf?


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The only fascist is Saddam Hussien,


The communists support him because he is an enemy of the USA and they are doing what they can to help him win the war.



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sixgun, i read that link you posted, and if for a moment it were true, then this war is only small portion of your war on terrorism. you're going to have to war on your own.

but in the end, who says the current american system is the perfect one? why cant it be changed. obviously there are people in america that don't agree with it. does it mean that it is your personal duty to change their minds, and if they don't agree, they better pretend to? that sounds like a dictatorship to me.
War on my own? If we don't take the war to the terrorists, then they will bring the war to US.

You seem to think that North Korea and Iran have a better system. I suggest you move there for a few years, then come back (if you survive) and we can then discuss who has the better system.



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sixgun, i read that link you posted, and if for a moment it were true, then this war is only small portion of your war on terrorism. you're going to have to war on your own.

but in the end, who says the current american system is the perfect one? why cant it be changed. obviously there are people in america that don't agree with it. does it mean that it is your personal duty to change their minds, and if they don't agree, they better pretend to? that sounds like a dictatorship to me.
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You seem to think that North Korea and Iran have a better system. I suggest you move there for a few years, then come back (if you survive) and we can then discuss who has the better system.
Could you please explain to the rest of the class where exactly in the first post you gained your assumption from?



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04-10-03

as i said, terrorists aren't just iraqi people, and you should know that not all iraqi are terrorists.

lets see, if i ask you to question your american system, it seems to mean that i think that the idea systems are north korea and iran. well GO YOU! for your fantastic conclusions...


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if you disregard the World Trade Center in the 80s, and on 9/11 the only domestic terrorism we saw was form white ex marines like TIm MCVey, and that fruit the UNi Bomber(he wasnt an ex marine)
  
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04-21-03

McVeigh was Army, not USMC. So get your facts straight.

The Unibomber was a Left Wing environmentalist. You are also forgetting about the Weathermen Gang as well as the SLA bunch that kidnapped Patty Hurst, robbed banks, and killed people. these were all Left Wing terrorists.



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Thats because very few right wing terrorists would ever exist. Its not their way to fight for "freedom" without a army behind them.


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McVeigh was Army, not USMC. So get your facts straight.

The Unibomber was a Left Wing environmentalist. You are also forgetting about the Weathermen Gang as well as the SLA bunch that kidnapped Patty Hurst, robbed banks, and killed people. these were all Left Wing terrorists.
point still standing that it was from WHITE TERRORISTS FROM INSIDE THE NATION.
  
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Red Meat,
Left wing terrorists are usually part of a gang. Ted Kazynski, aka "The Unibomber", was the only "lone wolf" commie.

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Bill Ayers, former leader of The Weathermen Gang, is a white person. So too were most of the hippies that made up the rank & file of the Left Wing terrorist groups like The Weathermen, SLA, Red Brigades, Baader-Meinhoff, and ect.

It does not change the fact that there is a 'Clash of Civilizations", and that terrorism will most likely come from muslims of whatever race they might be. (Islam is a religion, not a race).



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Gang isnt a army. Do you know the difference? Yes? Ok then move on.


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Red Meat,
Left wing terrorists are usually part of a gang. Ted Kazynski, aka "The Unibomber", was the only "lone wolf" commie.

Billy,
Bill Ayers, former leader of The Weathermen Gang, is a white person. So too were most of the hippies that made up the rank & file of the Left Wing terrorist groups like The Weathermen, SLA, Red Brigades, Baader-Meinhoff, and ect.

It does not change the fact that there is a 'Clash of Civilizations", and that terrorism will most likely come from muslims of whatever race they might be. (Islam is a religion, not a race).
of course the ppoint again being that the only terror attacks seen in the US before 9/11 had been done by crazy white people, not islamic terrorists. not counting the 1st WTC bombing which was actually a score form years before trying to be settled.

By the way Islam is a religion of peace, its American imperialism thats being terrorizedwith us civilians in the middle, blame it on your government thats been mucking up the middle east and supporting terrorists there for decades. If the US didnt do such things we wouldnt have been attacked. We created the terrorists and now were punishing them, how capitolist.
  
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US support for Israel did draw alot of Islamic ire, but they are just going to have to get used to Israel being there.

Islam is not a religion of peace, it is a very aggressive religion.

Much of the mideast and north africa was christian or pagan before islamic conquest. The muslims took over much of southern europe before the crusades, reaching as far north as vienna.

Look up the origin of the word 'assassin' sometime, they were the islamic terrorists of the middle ages.



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US support for Israel did draw alot of Islamic ire, but they are just going to have to get used to Israel being there.

Islam is not a religion of peace, it is a very aggressive religion.
Pull your head out of your arse and do some research

Much of the mideast and north africa was christian or pagan before islamic conquest. The muslims took over much of southern europe before the crusades, reaching as far north as vienna.
as did the Persians (is this who you are referring to as the Muslims?), the moors, the Greeks under Alexander, the Romans...your point is?

Look up the origin of the word 'assassin' sometime, they were the islamic terrorists of the middle ages.
The word comes from Hashish and they were persian assassins who got stoned before doing their job, they were assassins for hire, the practice was based mostly in Turkey and surprisingly enough they were the Assassins of the middle ages, not terrorists..
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Assassin...Terrorist.. The clue that they are different words is in the spelling



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04-23-03

Naw, Red, what're talking about? Differen't words? No way!

Islam is not a violent and aggressive religon. Its just that the extremists cause the entire sect to be stereotyped. I mean, every Christian is not Pat Robertson, for example, but people can't see past that.


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The assassins were a militant Islamic sect with fortresses, yes for hire at times, but were really the forerunner of todays Islamic terrorists.

My point on the conquests is that Islam is not a peaceful religion. It has a very militant and expansionist history and over the last twenty years has become more and more resurgent.

This "Islam is a religion of peace" line is just PC crap.