Ok, I'm going to try to start a thread where we'll talk about whatever bands we love and why and what we know and experiences and all that good shit that goes with it...

Here's the catch: The band that is listed gets talked about (ex: Black Sabbath)...and the next band to be talked about will be the one that is most related to the prior band talked about by how many are involved in this thread. (let's say most people relate Black Sabbath to Shevy...btw, Shevy sounds so similar to Black Sabbath, it's plagiarism..)

Once the convo starts to go offtopic or get boring about that band, I'll name the next band to talk about (by count of your "votes"). By the way, votes don't count if you can't explain WHY the band you vote for is related to the band of topic. I know it's rigged that way, but that's the point!

anyway, I'll start:

New Order. Anything you wanna talk about em...but make sure you list who you affiliate them with, so you have some sort of "vote"...and please try to affiliate the band with an honest answer, not "I'm going to say "x band" because I want them to be the next topic. (That's why I've "rigged" this..)

(I'll list my opinion later if this thread picks up..)

I Love New Order!

never heard of 'em

I thought you listen to some Goth? If you know Joy Division, you have to know New Order...

me? i'm mainly a metal-head.....

my goth is very limited....in fact, only true goth-rock band i sumtimes listen to is Christian Death.....i like nu-goth though

don't know who Joy Division is either.....heard their name once or twice though

Nine Inch Nails covered a Joy Division song called "Dead Souls" on the soundtrack for The Crow. Dunno if that rings a bell for you or not.

I actually prefer New Order to Joy Division, though some may consider that blasphemous. I dunno... Joy Division just makes me smirk like I do when I listen to stuff like Bauhaus. However, New Order really has an edge to them that makes their sound timeless. Several bands that have come out recently are reminiscent of them. The singer for Interpol, for instance, reeeeeally makes me think of N.O.

Interpol are cool

everyone add to the thread similar to this and this thread might actually be a good, long, useful and flowing one..

anyhow, I agree with you Anti; in fact I only like a few select songs from Joy Division. Well, a few being about 20 songs...

The Bahaus sound was (to my knowledge) always hailed as the "grandfathers of goth" music. I never really understood ~why~ New Order was classed as goth music. Almost like The Cure. The Cure fit, of course, but the bright/pretty tones that both New Order and The Cure are able to produce (so, so, so brilliantly) are what strikes me about them (New Order and The Cure alike).

Aside from being thrown into a deformed "pop" genre, or any sorta weird sub-category (I still struggle with accepting the titles of names like "nu-metal" and "rap-metal"), I think New Order would be classed as goth by their themes, their influences (they're Huuuuuge Joy Division fans) and I guess (heh) that bass tuning/tone that seems to be the "goth sound." You know what I mean, that clear, resonant bass that that doesn't want to mesh with the other instruments' effect settings and such. That kinda bass.

Even though New Order makes me think of Joy Division right away, this is only because of how the media and most fans have come to know them. In terms of their actual ~sound~... I like to buddy them up with The Cure, since they both write (as I said earlier) such exquisitly colorful and pretty sad songs with a lot of energy/spirit to them.

Interpol always reminded me more of Joy Division than New Order.
On the topic of Interpol, another band like them, Franz Turdinhand, borrows heavily from The Pixies, who are one of my favourite groups.

elaborate, if you will..

I like Franz Ferdinand. The people I know who are the most vocal about hating them are the people who demand that every band introduce something entirely knew to any given scene. Franz Ferdinand doesn't really do that, and I don't think they claim to. However, they do what they do extreeeeeemely well. The retro rock thing is getting pretty overdone, so it takes a lot to stand out.

And it's pretty hard not to borrow from the Pixies. They defined so many things that their sound lives on through like 2345293752978359279 other bands. They define "groundbreaking."

Is Fertinand a patriot of some sorts as well? I admit to not having putting the effort into giving him an honest listen besides the one radio single that was on the radio...

I say patriot because, aside from his borrowing from his influences (EVERY band does that people, get over it), his Scottish sound is the thing that caught me. It reminded me of Ashley McIssac(sp?) who is some Canadian violin player that was all indie and popular because of how he played Scottish folk music in "his way"... although I actually liked the song that Fertinand had on the radio.

Agreed. So many people were havily influenced by The Pixies. I'm just not a huge fan of Franz Ferdinand. I can usually find some stuff I like to listen to more, or actually just pop on a Pixies CD.
The retro-rock thing is fun, but since I don't listen to the radio or MTV, or really go out much.. (jesus, that sounds pathetic..), I can kind of pick and choose my retro bands without getting totally overwhelmed by them.
What I like about the new-retro bands is that they have re-introduced 'fun' music that is still fairly complex and interesting.

Interpol sounds like a polished Joy Division to me. Similar instrumentation, catchy, simple guitar riffs, dark brooding undertone.
New Order is almsot electro dark pop, not simlar in many ways, really, especially in songwriting. The whole approach is different. Which, I think they had to do, to not be called "that band that had Ian Curtis in it.."

Yeah, I'm glad that the indie kids are learning how to shake it again, instead of just mope around and cry (due to emo's overhrow of decency.) In terms of fun, my current favorite is the recent emergence of dance-punk. The Rapture, Hot Hot Heat, The Chinese Stars... man, that stuff is fun. Now you can see indie kids who can't dance for shit actually dancing at shows, and not caring how dumb they look. That was impossible five years ago...

Actually, for fun, I've reverted to Tom Waits and The Cramps recently.

You know what's sickeningly fun? The new William Shatner album. It shouldn't be, but it is. The tune "I Can't Get Behind That" that he does with Henry Rollins is fun on a bun.

yes, I've heard it, and love it. That album is so humurously self-depreciating in so many ways, just an awesome album.

first time I heard thaton the University radio, I was working, driving in the company truck in the downtown area to some site and I almost crashed into some car in front of me cause I couldn't believe how much I loved the cheesiness of that song. hahaha... oh man. That song is just.. unreal.

Are we doing this right?

lol. meh. i'm not "the boss".. i'm just hoping for good music discussion that keeps up for a change..

i just set up basic guidelines...if you feel it's working fine, then so do i..