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NASA faked moon landings - 01-16-03

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It may be that both Americans and Russians never flew to the Moon. Because of a very simple thing: take-off after landing on the Moon (to return to the Earth). To take off, the spacecraft, both modern and of those times (60-70s), needs a carrier rocket weighing many hundreds of tons, hundreds of tons of fuel for it, and powerful space-vehicle launching site.

It may be that both Americans and Russians never flied to the Moon. Because of a very simple thing:

Take-off after landing on the Moon (to return to the Earth)

To take off, the spacecraft, both modern and of that time (60-70s), needs a carrier rocket weighing many hundreds of tons, hundreds of tons of fuel for it, and powerful space-vehicle launching site.

How to take all this with a spacecraft to be able to take off from the Moon after landing on it? The mid-rank carrier rocket Ariane-5, for example, weighs 750 tons (the rocket itself and the fuel), and the "lite" carrier rocket Dnepr-1 (created basing on the strategic intercontinental ballistic missile SS-18 Satan) weighs 211 tons. They develop the power of about 10-20mn KWt. We certainly can take in account that a rocket able to launch a spacecraft from the Moon should have the power of about 6 times less than here on the Earth (as the Moon gravitation is 6 times smaller), but even in this case the rocket would weigh about 750/6, i.e. about 125 tons minimum (the rocket and the fuel), plus the weight of details for deploying a temporary launching site. Even if the weight of these details equals to the minimum possible weight of about 50 tons, then the spacecraft should be able to take with itself a minimum weight of ~175 tons. No such spacecraft were developed before the flight to the Moon, none even close to that; today's most powerful spacecraft's weight carrying capabilities couldn't approach even the numbers thrice smaller than this (for example, one of the most modern Russian carrier rockets, Titan-4, which is approximately equal to Space Shuttle carrier rocket by its parameters, is able to carry only about 17.5 tons of weight). The official story of American flights to the Moon -- about Russian flights see below -- says that larger command module rocket "Columbia" remained in lunar orbit while the lunar module "Eagle" separated and descended with firing retro rockets to the lunar surface. The astronauts exited "Eagle" to take pictures and recover lunar material from the surface. They then returned to the lunar lander module to return back to the "Columbia" command module. The "Columbia" broke out of lunar orbit to go back to Earth and splash down with parachutes.

"Eagle" weighed about 16 tons, or about 5,500 pounds if we mean lunar gravity. To launch satellite of such a mass, at least Ariane-5 class rocket is needed. But if even it is Dnepr-1 class rocket then the mass of rocket for launching 5,500 pound "Eagle" from the Moon would be about 35 tons (211/6). Before launching "Eagle" from the Moon such a 35-ton rocket itself needs to be delivered to the Moon. See above about delivering capacities even of modern spacecraft. Plus launching satellites even of this mass, requires deploying a launching site. How was it deployed on the Moon?

If even we suppose that several carrier rockets like "Columbia" could deliver all this to the Moon in several lunar modules "Eagles" (seems this should have been a very hard task for such modules to land on the Moon since the Moon has no atmosphere, which diminishes the speed of similar modules when these land on the Earth), then how was for example the Lunar launching site deployed? On-site by astronauts in spacesuits? And why was all this praiseworthy process, or at least its part, not shown on the photos or on the videos? Where are photographs of such a praiseworthy achievement like Lunar launching site? And if somehow no launching site construction was still required to take off from the Moon, why are there no photographs or videos of the spacecraft taking off from it? Wasn't it impossible to take photograph/videos of the spacecraft taking off from the Moon, from "Columbia" rocket? If this was a hard technical task in those times, then why weren't at least preparations for this takeoff photoed or videoed, by astronauts on-site? Did the NASA astronauts return to "Columbia", "which remained in lunar orbit", using the rope that was hanging out of it? And where are Russian photographs and videos dedicated to their "Lunar takeoff" preparations?

Unless we assume that already at that time NASA could build an antigravitation craft -- also referred to as antigrav, starcraft, starship, and flying saucer -- for which all the described obstacles just don't exist. (Such a device is not necessarily able to fly to stars, this depends on its capacities, i.e. it is its construction that determines whether it will be able to fly to stars or only to Sun system's planets or planet satellites. Antigrav means only that the device uses antigravitation for flying -- not wings, rotors etc. Its velocity can vary from 10 meters per second to overlight speeds, this depends on what its capacities are.) This seems more reasonable, taking in account that the American flag and a plaque with inscriptions on it next to the flag are reported, by many persons who visit observatories, to be clearly seen on the Moon surface. But this means NASA had antigravs already in those remote times, and that it has them now... Or did they borrow it from an extraterrestrial civilization (Zetas Reticuli, hominoids from Orion, or maybe those who mutilate cattle)? One detail maybe directly advise us that this might have taken place: one of astronauts, during the first flight that was translated by television, was talking directly on the air that he was seeing giant artificial objects. Perhaps the aliens put such a condition for the lease of their craft: to tell directly on the air something that would evidently show the listeners that the astronauts met craft of another civilization? This may be confirmed by the following fact: just several years later the American Congress gathered to acknowledge the existence of extraterrestrials in a special report.

The NASA photo below, with its absolutely impossible (for the lunar landscape) shadows -- like if they were made with the use of different projectors shining at different angles -- can be an additional proof of all told above. Maybe NASA, let's say, "feels ashamed" for the mystification, and therefore provided such photos as hidden hints? Or, more probably, did they provide contradictory materials to entangle all this more and more?

[Photo insert]

Or maybe NASA astronauts still visited the Moon (in the antigrav) and videoed/photoed all what is claimed to be lunar videos and photos, but these got of such a poor quality due to some details of lunar atmosphere and climate that NASA decided to order new "better looking" videos/photos to Hollywood? Then we understand why there are such errors in them...

We think Russians, shocked by such a "challenge" from NASA, in turn invented their own "success story" about "flying to the Moon" and "taking samples of lunar rocks" by their "unmanned" "Lunohods". Or did Russians also create antigravs or receive them from another civilization?



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Has anyon watched that TV special that talked about all the reasons why some belive that they never lands on the moon? I have seen it a couple of times and after watching it it is hard to believe that they did because it was packed with tons of reaons and evidence angainst that they ever did land on the moon.



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Has anyon watched that TV special that talked about all the reasons why some belive that they never lands on the moon? I have seen it a couple of times and after watching it it is hard to believe that they did because it was packed with tons of reaons and evidence angainst that they ever did land on the moon.
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01-17-03

I think some of your calculations are wrong: the force needed to take off lunar soil is lesser than 6 times the one required to escape Earth's gravitation, because the Moon has no athmosphere & it's gravitational field. They don't use conventional fuel in space (because there oxynene doesn't exist) so you see, the problem you presented is not that simple.


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01-17-03

I've seen many different things about it, and it really could go either way...


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Has anyone seen that tape with Buzz Aldrin punching out a moon landing conspiracy theorist? if not go here and read about it and see a GIF of it
  
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I think the calculations are garbage; I'd have to pull out my physics stuff; you'd have to calculate the force, F, to achieve the velocity v, to escape the moon; then the means of achieving that force F would need to be calculated (taking into consideration the mass of the fuel, which will add a variable into the equations); the crap Power (P) equations aren't sufficient.


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I can't do this until I know what the mass of the fuel used was, and how efficient the proposed shuttle was at transforming that fuel to energy.


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01-19-03

F=m*a; as simple as that...


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There is a website that proves that the moon landing was recorded in a studio. I would post it only i've just discovered it has a virus on it.

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Nothing written on a website can be enough to prove that... As I said before, it is not as simple as that...


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Did you also know that Buzz Aldrin was secretly arrested and placed in a mental home because he planned to tell the press that there were Roman buildings on the moon, hey, I have no opinion on this except the fact that I think the Romans were much better builders than us and if anyone went to the moon it was them, or what if the moon was Olympus...


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The moon has no athmosphere, so the romans couldn't build those things


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F=m*a; as simple as that...
I need the mass of the moon, the diameter of the moon, the mass of the fuel, the percentage of the combustion...


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01-28-03

What for? You think you can prove they didn't go to the moon?


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01-28-03

True , True , i seen the documentary too , energy fields in space made it impossible for them to reach the moon completely (just repeating the documentary dont blame me for anything said here ) U.S.A wanted to beat the russians in technology and faked the landing in the desert , the place that it was shot , is somehow near roswell they said , me personally dont think they did land on the moon. what do u think ?



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01-28-03

Why would they fake the Moon landings? If you think about it it's not such a big deal after all...


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It was a big deal back then when they wanted to beat the Russians at everything to show that they are better then them.



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