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Corporate Pig · **Israel and Sept 11 -** 09-03-03

How deep is the Rabbit hole?...

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Prejudice In Pakistan

MSNBC Sept 14, 2001
Refer: http://msnbc.com/news/629231.asp?cp1=1

Maj. Gen. Hamid Gul, former head of Pakistan's intelligence service: 'I tell you, it was a coup'. . . General Gul's basic message is that Osama bin Laden is innocent, and that the attacks on New York and Washington were an Israeli-engineered attempt at a coup against the government of the United States. He rattled off the proof: "You must look inside. F-16s don't scramble in time, though they had 18 minutes after the first plane hit the World Trade Center. Radar gets jammed. Transponders are turned off. A flight to Los Angeles turns to Washington and is in the air for 45 minutes, and the world's most sophisticated air defense doesn't go into action. I tell you, it was a coup [attempt], and I can't say for sure who was behind it, but it's the Israelis who are creating so much misery in the world. The Israelis don't want to see any power in Washington unless it's subservient to their interests, and President Bush has not been subservient." . . .

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4000 Israeli Employees in WTC Escape

Islamabad (PNS) September 19, 2001
Refer:http://www.paknews.com/main.php?id=3&date1=2001-09-19

Nearly 4000 Israeli employed in World Trade Center in New York were absent on the day the incident of air attacks took place in US on September 11.

"No one talked about any Israeli being killed or wounded in the attacks" Arab diplomatic sources revealed to the Jordanian al-Watan newspaper adding that those Israelis remained absent that day based on hints from Shabak, the Israeli General Security Apparatus.

According to an Israeli newspaper Yadiot Ahranot, the Shabak also prevented Israeli premier Ariel Sharon from travelling to New York and particularly to the city's eastern coast to participate in a festival organized by the Zionist organizations in support of the "Israel". Full story:

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FBI detain 5 Israelis in Connection with WTC Incident
NEW YORK, September 19 (PNS)
Refer: http://www.paknews.com/main.php?id=4&date1=2001-09-19

Five Israelis who had worked for a moving company based in New Jersey were held by Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) for having links with the World Trade Center incident in New York last Tuesday.

The Foreign Ministry said in response that it had been informed by the consulate in New York that the FBI had arrested the five for "puzzling behaviour." They are said to have had been caught videotaping the disaster and shouting in what was interpreted as cries of joy and mockery.

and once again to raise the question, as to the apparent hijackers...

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'Suicide hijacker' is Airline Pilot Alive and Well

Beirut (Independent) 17 September 2001
Refer: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...sp?story=94438

A man named by the US Department of Justice as a suicide hijacker of American Airlines flight 11 -- the first airliner to smash into the World Trade Centre -- is very much alive and living in Jeddah.

Abdulrahman al-Omari, a pilot with Saudi Airlines, was astonished to find himself accused of hijacking - as well as being dead . . . That is not the only error on the list of hijackers.

So...
If Abdulrahman al-Omari, one of the named terrorist hijackers - more so supposably responsable for flying American Airlines Flight 11.
Is alive and well to this day -
THEN WHO WAS FLYING THE PLANE ?

or was the plane "flying itself" ?

eresh_cloudy · 09-04-03

ugh disgustingly far fetched and boy, talk about conspiracy psychotics....
pfffff

why oh why would israel attack their friend the usa?!!?
don´t believe anything you read or hear, it´s just propaganda
IMHO

eresh_cloudy · 09-04-03

oh, I forgot to point out, these articles all come from the same source, and how coincidental, this source has all to gain by pointing the finger at the israeli´s

oh well, belive what you will.

now you can all point and yell at me :-P

Pier · 09-04-03

Well I know the story about the 4000 Israelis "escaping" from the WTC is a hoax...they don't even employ that many...

Uncletiggs · 09-07-03

well, seeing as it's coming up on the aniversary date, it figures someone would bring this back up..

Corporate Pig · 09-10-03

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Originally Posted by eresh_cloudy

oh, I forgot to point out, these articles all come from the same source, and how coincidental, this source has all to gain by pointing the finger at the israeli´s

"oh, I forgot to point out,.."
just how you cant READ.
All the same source.. wow - I didn't know that MSNBC, The Independant (UK) and the Pakistan News were all "the same source"

In case you couldn't count, that's 3 SOURCES for 4 articles.

but to satisfy you still more...

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Suspects Still Held

Among the hundreds of suspects being held in connection with the terror attacks of Sept. 11 are a number of Israelis who were seen rejoicing while photographing the burning World Trade Center.

American Free Press
By Christopher Bollyn
Refer: http://www.americanfreepress.net/Mid...till_held.html

Five Israelis, suspected of being co-conspirators in the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, arrested in New Jersey with box-cutters, multiple passports, and $4,000 cash on Sept. 11, remain in detention and may be held for another 90 days as the criminal investigation continues. They are among the more than 1,000 suspects who are being held in connection with the attacks whose detention is shrouded in secrecy....

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The White Van:-
Were Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies?

ABC News
By Chris Isham, John Miller, Glenn Silber and Chris Vlasto
Refer: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/...an_020621.html

June 21 ? Millions saw the horrific images of the World Trade Center attacks, and those who saw them won't forget them. But a New Jersey homemaker saw something that morning that prompted an investigation into five young Israelis and their possible connection to Israeli intelligence...

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Spy Rumors Fly on Gusts of Truth
Americans Probing Reports of Israeli Espionage

Foward News
By MARC PERELMAN
Refer: http://www.forward.com/issues/2002/02.03.15/news2.html

Despite angry denials by Israel and its American supporters, reports that Israel was conducting spying activities in the United States may have a grain of truth, the Forward has learned.

However, far from pointing to Israeli spying against U.S. government and military facilities, as reported in Europe last week, the incidents in question appear to represent a case of Israelis in the United States spying on a common enemy, radical Islamic networks suspected of links to Middle East terrorism.

In particular, a group of five Israelis arrested in New Jersey shortly after the September 11 attacks and held for more than two months was subjected to an unusual number of polygraph tests and interrogated by a series of government agencies including the FBI's counterintelligence division, which by some reports remains convinced that Israel was conducting an intelligence operation. The five Israelis worked for a moving company with few discernable assets that closed up shop immediately afterward and whose owner fled to Israel.

Other allegations involved Israelis claiming to be art students who had backgrounds in signal interception and ordnance.

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Five Israelis Jailed, Grilled & Tortured
By FBI For 'Puzzling Behavior' After WTC

DavidIcke.com
News from Israel
Refer: http://www.davidicke.net/newsroom/as...l/091801a.html

Five Israelis who had worked for a moving company based in New Jersey are being held in U.S. prisons for what the Federal Bureau of Investigation has described as "puzzling behavior" following the terror attack on the World Trade Center in New York last Tuesday. The five are expected to be deported sometime soon.

The families of the five, who asked that their names not be released, said that their sons had been questioned by the FBI for hours on end, had been kept in solitary confinement for three days, and had been humiliated, stripped of their clothes and blindfolded.

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Caught In A Dragnet

Case of five Israelis held here since Sept. 11 reveals tension between civil rights and fight against terrorism.

The Jewish Week
11/02/2001
Refer: http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/ne...hp3?artid=5303

Just as President George W. Bush was announcing Monday a new effort to deport foreigners illegally in this country, one of five Israelis jailed for working here illegally called his mother from jail to ask when he could go home. The five men were arrested and imprisoned just hours after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

?He cried and asked how long it will take before he can come home,? Israela Marmari of Petach Tikvah said a half-hour after her son, Omer, 22, called from the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn. ?When they were arrested in September, it was believed they were Arabs connected with the terror in New York.?

In the moving van they were driving for their employer, Urban Moving Systems in Weehawken, N.J., the men ? ages 22 to 27 and all single ? carried box cutters. One had $4,000 in cash, another had a camera, and a third had two passports because he is also a German citizen.

They were stopped by a police at about 3 p.m. Sept. 11 after two women saw them standing on the roofs of the moving company and their van, smiling as they took pictures of each other with the burning World Trade Center in the background.

So to summarise,..

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Originally Posted by eresh_cloudy

ugh disgustingly far fetched and boy, talk about conspiracy psychotics....

why oh why would israel attack their friend the usa?!!?

The only 'conspiracy psychotics' is eresh_cloudy in DENIAL about 5 Israeli's which were arrested by the FBI on Sept 11.

As to why, Israel might possibly attack US,...
leave that to the Zionist's and Conservatives to argue over.

John Preston · 09-14-03

The fun thing is that Osama and his group have been payed recently by America in order to help America out.

And Osama's goals are to bring America into the Middle East.

So in the end it's a tad hilarious to even think that some connection doesn't exist between "terrorists" and america.

Seph · 09-14-03

Hey tigr, your green dot now says you're on a distinguished road.

John Preston · 09-14-03

Heh.

As for this stuff, it wouldn't surprise me if America is working in tandem with Israel in order to pull off crap, or at least cover it up.

Seph · 09-14-03

Nah, Israel is trying to take over the world, we need to bring Hitler out of cryogenic stasis to save us, and don't give me that "he's dead" stuff, everyone knows that was a cover up.