no offense, but the philosiphy board is 10 down on the main board...

As for the books, ~yawns~ it was a story version(basically) and what they wanted you to think......

hehehe

~shrugs~ i post em as i see em

Sure. You know philosophy is just brain washing people anyway.

Philosophy is people proving there point to themselves

I apply that to just two subjects.. Sex and Conspiracies!!

Is it now or is it Really Trying to prove Something that Isn't True to others so will think it's Better than It Is. I mean you know, conspiracies.

i cant believe i just wasted 30 minutes of my life reading this thread.....................

You don't have to be so mean.

How do you figure that?

Did you really expect to find All the answers to the dark secrets of the illuminati? And will you be so kind as to add something to this.. It would be appreciated..

I thought the thing about drinking wine out of human skulls was picturesque.

What do you think Darktiggr?

I've spent a lot of time researching the Illuminati and the Free Masons; which I really started because in high school I chose to do a report on my Great Great Great Grandfather was a Free Mason (James Abram Garfield) who was President for less than a year before he was shot and killed.

However, this is what I understand as being the most accurate (whether or not it is, that's still anyboby's guess because there really is way too much misinformation out there).

Adam Weishaupt was a student at a Jesuit college in Bavaria and later became a professor of law. In time he became more liberal and left the order. In 1776 he started an organization of free thinkers which "became" known as the Illuminatus or the illuminated. Now I understand that they supposedly used some potent strain of marijuanna mixed with some secret ingredient to obtain this illumination which Weishaupt learned about, supposedly originating from the middle east (no surprise there) from a tryant named Hassan I Sabbah (not sure of the validity of that one). However, the popular role playing game "Vampire the Masquerade" uses the history of Hassan and his cult as the basis for the Sabbat, which is one of the family of vampires known for being assasins in the game. Not really relevant, but I thought it was interesting to point out.

In 1777/1778 roughly a year after the Illuminatus had been formed, it was discovered that many of the members held very important and key positions within the various governments of Europe, even the secretive Free Masons. Weishaupt was exilled and fled. There is a lot of speculation as to where, but Gotha seems to be the most popular concensus.

Other interesting facts, Weishaupt and George Washington supposedly were "dopplegangers" and there is wide spread belief that Weishaupt came to the "New World" and assumed George Washington's life.

"Most" everything else is pure speculation. It is true that it widely believed that the Eye of Horus (Egyptian) over the peakless pyramid (also Egyptian) is their "official" symbol, and there are many things that could be said about that.

What makes the Illuminati interesting is that they did infiltrate the Free Masons, and even though the Illuminati was discovered and "banned", there is no proof that they did not continue their secret society. With that said, it is also interesting to note that up until the point of President Reagan (can't verify after him) every president of the United States was a Free Mason except for one. John F. Kennedy, who was Catholic, was that exception (conspiracy sparks should be zipping through your brain now). What makes this even more interesting, is that Free Masonry and Catholicism mix like oil and water. It seems to be quite "taboo" to associate with the other for those two parties.

I'm not trying to say that this is the "BIBLE" of Illuminatism, but it seems to be grounded in the truth more so than other theories I've heard. This shit does go on and on and it gets very difficult to discern between truth and fiction (if there is any real truth to be discovered at all).

But bear in mind that Free Masonry is still a very powerful organization in the world today. They have their own bank, and they are supportive of each other in ways that most of us could not fathom.


The Eye of Horus

There is one part of the puzzle you are missing though.

You see the Masons and others developed before and after the time of Christ. King Solomon married hundreds if not thousands of wives from all over the world. Some of his prominent wives were Syrian and Egyptian. During this time, Solomon had a vison that God would lead him into understanding and controling the Angels and Demons so he could rid the nation of threats and protect the Kingdom.

During the time of Solomon many rituals were performed calling Gods into sacred circles of many shapes and sizes to ask these Gods who and what they are. That is how many terms still used today came today. Many stories from his diaries (I hear) ask these Syrian, Egyptian, etc. . . . Gods their names and ranks. Some types called didn't use names so they were given names as away to call them by.

Many priests watched and charted all that happened. One day Solomon started to move into action ways to wage war. At first it was under "the guidance of the Jewish God" however, soon he began to build the Brass Vessel. He thought if he could control the most powerfull or atleast powerfull Angels and Demons he could rule the world.

Shortly after trying to enslave them and rouge Demon began to mess with Solomon. He drove the King mad. He walked around in the streets aimless unable to even tell others who he truely was. Eventually, the Jewish people became poor supporting all of his wives and Solomon's only hope when he died was his Sons would bring the Nation back to glory. Later some things happened like rampages distroying all idols. That's a different story.

The Masons base their action towards King Solomon's deluted thoughts. Still their knowledge builds though. I happened on one building enshrouded in Free Mason idols. Gargoyles mainly, but something caught my eye. It was a Naga. Nagas are of Asian belief. Therefore, Free Masons are expanding the research beyond what was ever learned before collectively throughout all Nations.

As far a that goes, eventually the Jewish people decided there was only one God. There is an account in the Bible, much like Super Man. When powerfull Syrian God and the Jewish God were called at the same time, only one would or perhaps could appear.

Now THAT was an informative post hooka...
Love the JFK part

But although it is well been stated otherwise, the Masons and the Illuminati are actually intertwined..

Nice return post NMaries.. Thats what i like to see!!!

And yes, the drinking wine from the skull part was nice!!!

You know those movies from the seventies? When they do those circles and pentagrams they are actually depicting what the real rituals look like. I hear many actors and actresses had strange accidents on the sets and afterwards.

Care to start a new thread on that NMaries??

No. That's about the illuminati too. During the seventies and eighties all kinds of things were happening. They started instigating magic through movies and music. You see hypnotic codes can be written into them.

I knew a guy who was from a very wealthy family. He seemed very strange on the surface. He would tell me about blackouts when going into the basement, but his family home didn't have one. Even though there is little reason to believe him, it's like a horror story, it gives you the tingles. Another weird happening around him was at one moment he could quote the Dead Sea Scrolls. A moment later he couldn't recall anything, except he read them.

After awhile I started looking at him differently. It was like his heart was encase in an emerald and a dark cloud surrounded him. Perhaps it was just a psychological image I devised for myself based on my opinon about him. We talked and he just needed question sometimes his thoughts. I tried to get him to understand what sin is. Even the New Testament says the word of God is the Sword however, who knows if he ever found balance.

But it's a different aspect of the whole issue...

as for this last post.. you are heading into a cross between religion(by your own words) and philosophy...

The Illumnist have a religon. By most people's standards it is Satanism, though they do not actually worship Satan or just Satan.

Actually, it's more like a cross between the english and hindu satanists..

now just add a pinch of this and a shake of that...

That's what I'm trying to say though. They aren't Satanists.

You know a lot of religons have been drown out by the Christians, because they don't want anyone worshipping idols and damning themselves to Hell. However, some don't see the obvious punichment next to the sin listed, so I think they really believe in what they are doing.