so are you saying that the asthma is a product of the Hmm, Mason's? (aka illuminati)

ok heres an excerpt from one of the 'mason's' rituals..

Knight Templar York Rite Initiation Excerpt

<<...Junior Warden leaves the room, and Candidate removes the bandage and
discovers in addition to the Bible, bowl of water, etc., a human skull and
cross-bones facing him on the table.>>

The candidate had been told while blindfolded in this "Chamber of
Reflection" of all the items on the table except the skull and cross-bones.
Later, the Candidate, as a test of humility, carries a human skull and a lit
candle about the room to simulate a pilgrimage to the Holy Sepulchre.
Afterwards:

<<Grand Commander - pilgrim, the fifth libation is taken in a very solemn
way. It is emblematical of the bitter cup of death, of which we must all,
sooner or later, taste;and even the Saviour of the world was not exempted,
notwithstanding his repeated prayers and supplications. It is taken of pure
wine and from this cup. (Exhibiting a human skull), he pours the wine into
it and says, - To show you that we here practice no imposition, I give you
this pledge. (drinks from the skull.) He then pours more wine into the
skull, and presents it to the candidate, telling him that the fifth libation
is called the sealed obligation, as it is to seal all his former engagements
in Masonry. ...

Sometimes the candidate hesitates to drink out of the skull, in which
case he is intimidated as follows: ...>>

The Knights draw their swords and surround the candidate, who is in a
kneeling position. The tips of their blades are pointed at the Candidate's
throat:

<<Grand Commander - Pilgrim, you here see the swords of your companions,
all drawn, ready to defend you in the discharge of every duty we require of
you. They are also drawn to avenge any violation of the rules of our order.
You promised, when you entered the chamber of reflection, that you would
conform to all the ceremonies, rules and regulations of this Encampment. We
here have your promise in writing. [3] We expect you will proceed. All Sir
Knights who have taken this degree, have participated in the fifth libation;
and if there is anything in it that you do not perfectly understand, it will
be qualified and explained to your satisfaction.
Candidate takes the skull in his hand, and repeats after the Grand
Commander as follows:

This pure wine, I take from this cup in testimony of my belief in the
mortality of the body and the immortality of the soul; and as the sins of
the whole world were laid upon the head of our Saviour, so may the sins of
the person whose skull this once was, be heaped upon my head, in addition to
my own; and may they appear in judgement against me, both here and
hereafter, should I violate or transgress any obligation in Masonry, or the
Orders of Knighthood which I have heretofore taken, take at this time, or
may hereafter be instructed in. So help me God. (Drinks of the wine.)>>

[3] Candidate's solemn obligation excerpt

Additionally, the Candidate made a solemn obligation kneeling, upon two
crossed swords, before the altar upon which is a Bible on top of which is
another pair of crossed swords on which he lays his hands:

<<Furthermore do I promise and swear, that I will support and maintain the
by-laws of the Encampment of which I may hereafter become a member, the
edicts and regulations of the Grand Encampment of the United States of
America, so far as the same shall come to my knowledge.

To all this I most solemnly and sincerely promise and swear, with a firm
and steady resolution to perform and keep the same, without any hesitation,
equivocation, mental reservation or self-evasion of mind whatever; binding
myself under no less penalty than to have my head struck off and placed on
the highest spire in christendom, should I knowingly or willfully violate
any part of this, my solemn obligation of a Knight Templar. So help me God,
and keep me steadfast to perform and keep the same.>>

The covenant made by drinking wine from a human skull in the Knight
Templar Degree of the York Rite is called a "sealed obligation":

<<Grand Commander (taking skull from candidate.) - This is called the sealed
obligation, because any promise of secresy, (sic) made in reference to this
obligation, is considered by Knights Templars (sic) to be more binding than
any other obligation can be.>>

NMaries...you are a whack job. You are schizophrenic aren't you?

I would like to bring attention to the Illuminati was around before the USA.



Not so much a whack job as effected by horror fantasy novels. Anyone, see The Langdallers. You know that Stephen King is up to something. Many dark secrets trapped in that creative mind.

Really you should See the Iluminata (Illuminati) video. It's two hours of this guys talking. It makes you feel like they are trying to hypomtise you. Pay close attention to what the guy says though. It's like he is a dumbass that has willfully fallen for the trap. He goes into how the Illuminati are spreading hatred to divide the masses, like the whites and blacks, because the jews were taken down in WWII to show their God wasn't superior. Then he starts inciting all this other bullsh*t against the jewish bankers.

Yup

Make it sound like all the ellitists in America have tables with Pentegrams etched in the surface, face masks that change shape with goats horns when looked at from reflections, bizzare beastly men covered with fur and read tarot cards in their bedrooms or something.

My post was of modern(within the last 50 years) masons in the USA...

as for the rest of your post.. Whatever..
if i want to hear subliminal messaging, i'll talk to my ex girlfriend

~ mocking voice ~

I'll talk to my ex girlfriend.



The French Revolution was more than 50 years ago. Jesus died atleast 2000 years ago!

see, it worked... got you mumbling.. *grins*

yes, but the post i made was a recent inner sanctum ritual.. i believe that was something commented on.. As for the illuminati, It was said that the masons are part of the same group... So i showed some of there stuff..
Sorry though, my time traveling machine is in the shop.. so i can't go find out from that time.. Not to mention the fact that i don't have an invite from either time period, or speak the language properly.. Either one can and would get me killed on the spot....

As I was just saying, there is no point in getting all aggressive about this. It is like the guy with a sign claiming the end of the world. So many people have been saying it over the years trying to run a political platform against the war on it would fall flat after Y2K. Nope, the best solution is to ignore the hearsay, take a passive stance and prepare.

The news was making fun of a man who wrapped his home in plastic about a month ago. However, it doesn’t hurt anyone and if biochemical weapons were used in the area he and his family would be safe and could tear down the plastic after three days. Having a room in the house without ventilation would be good to.

There is an odd thing that happens when fingers start getting pointed. A lot less is done. Perhaps the Illuminati have succeeded and this war. After Mad Max and Water World it seems everyone just jumps at it. Plus, after seeing news that Sadam’s Son has pictures of the Bush twins and child pornography, this looks like its going full steam. There is no reason for why that info would be released. It may even be planted evidence.

Hmm sadam's son knew/knows what he wants eh??

Yeh, top story at eleven.

nope, it's not allowed to show the good stuff on T.V. here..

Oh,



Well all humor aside, it is odd that an entire documentry and then video could be made several years before the war in Iraq started that states the final world war would be hosted in muslim countries. It goes over the plan a little bit. Two Revolutions to shake up the control by the aristocracy then two world wars to bring together an International colition to over see all progress. The last war starts off, waiting to get a spark then they moving fighting into Isreal to rid the world of religous icons amist the chaos.

Already they are talking about moving into Syria or Iran to find these "missing weapons" and the occasional story about Syrians firing at USA soldiers pops up. I wonder how sure they are it was a Syrian?

Nosrti said that long ago too...

Heres one for ya.. How many countries make up that area?/

About fifteen between Egypt to the West, Iran to the East and Turkey to the North on the pennensila. There is Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Latakia, Diyarbah, Jordan, Isreael, Ammen, Yemen, South yemen, Oman, Uited Arab Emirates and a couple real small ones that may not be countries anymore.

The interesting part here is, if you get out a world atlas, Iraq borders Ammen and Syria. On just the other side is three small countried Isreal, Jordan and Lebanon. Jerusalem is in Jordan, right on the other side of Ammen. Mount Shamech aka al Sharif (The Holy Mount) is on right on the other side of Syria. Syria might still have claim to the Mount.

It's just a matter of time until someone gets ticked off or they make something up, so they can go in. This brings me back to the importance of writing to Congress. The only way to stop it is before it happens. Afterwards there isn't much left to do, like what happened in the war with Iraq. Everyone gets focused on that one, but it is time to put your foot down before the USA moves on Syria or Iran.

LOL now, how many of Those hate the USA??

I don't think any of them do. Now the President is saying they do though.

Yay. We went from talk of the Illuminati to newbie flaming to ex-girlfriends.

Take a deep breath, release it, and find a library that has the Illuminatus Trilogy. It deals with various aspects of the Society and has the weirdest plotline I've ever read. All of it in a not-so-serious environment. You'll love it. I guess.

-Devi8-

The Illuminati is not all powerful. It's just powerful. If it is.

Quiet n00b. lol. Good observation, things can turn to shit here pretty quick. The Illuminati are all powerful because those who believe are swept under the rug by society programmed to label them loony. the only people perhaps in positions of power to fight them are members.