Have you ever wondered what is life?
What is this world all about?
What is human existence?
What are the essential things of this life?
Can the things of this life be grouped in some meaningfull categories?
What relations are betwen this essential categories?
And what implications do they have?

If you wondered about this questions, the you're in the right place to find the answers.

Before we start I want to make some specifications:

1.The theme of this thread is life in general. Is about a point of viewing life.
2.The expression form on this thread is a discussion. I believe it will be much better than if saying, look this is my opinion and write a lot of stuff. It will also be better because you will be involved in the thinking process.
3.The discussion will be done step by step. From basic things from which we deduce more complex ones. If in the beginin you have the impression that this is obvious have, little a patience until we get to the complex things.

That were the specifications so let's start this thing:

Have I ever wondered such things?! Hell no! I only obtained a degree in philosophy because I was a pot-head; and I only moderate this here philosophy section because we no longer have a porn section.

So we want to better understand this life.
If we want to understand this life we must first see what is in this life.
So let's begin by saying some stuff of this life:
I guess I will start first.

Now I see: my computer, a mouse, a clock, I feel inquisitive, a table, I am moving the mouse, cars outside, a neighbour, I feel sad, the neighbour is on the balcony, I am writting this thread, the car started moving, I am wondering what hour it is, the neighbour just falled, I am lying, I am thinking if it isn't late, I am thinking what to write next, I don't have any clue, I am thinking it is enough.

So what can we say about all this things.
That they are part of this life. That they exist.
So this things exists in this life.
But what can we tell about this things?
Can you see some patterns about them?
Can you make some groups? some categories?
(This is enough for now, later we will speak about relations betwen this groups, but first let's make the groups.)
Okay I wrote enough.

Now it is your turn.
1.You could tell some things that exists in this life.
2.Or you could propose some categories about the things I said.
I am serious, so post something. (respond to either 1 or 2, or booth)

Y'know . . . we ain't retarded here. Most of us have a pretty clear idea of rationalizing philosophically. And some of us have actually studied philosophy. So rather than taking this "Okay kids, let's try and build a triangle," approach . . . why don't you just jump into the main hypothesis that's plaguing your mind.

I'm not seeing a line of discussion. Exactly what are we supposed to be talking about?

What is life?

Life is not death.

The context of energy in the universe can be categorized into energy that is alive, and energy that is not alive. Or energy that is dead, and energy that is not dead.

However all energy is relative to itself: the theory of relativity applies not only to your relatives and my relatives but to everybody's relatives.

If we trace all of our relatives back: you will find that we all come from the same relative root stock. Which makes everything very mushy, gradual, organic, and complex.

Living energy and dead energy is just one way of describing the difference between strong energy and weak energy.

Living energy is stronger than dead energy. When living energy dies: it does so gradually: so gradually: that it cannot be clearly separated into an absolute separation of Life and death.

The same is true for the birth of all living energy: it is so gradual a process: that nobody can clearly pinpont the moment when a fetus becomes a living human being... or when sperm and egg become alive... or how alive or how dead all the other relative energies involved actually are.

The only way you can clearly separate anything is by dynamic balance.

If you had a magical scale of aliveness and deadness: then anything that tipped the scale at more than 50% aliveness might be able to be catagorized as being nmore alive than dead.

If something tipped the scale at less than 50% aliveness: then it could be said to be more dead than alive.

But here is the question: what is alive? And what is dead? If you callibrate your scale incorrectly: then all of your measurements and value judgements about life and death will be completely off the mark and inaccurate.

How alive is a tree compared to an insect?

How alive is a human compared to a chipmunk?

How alive is liquid water compared to ice?

How alive is fire compared to ashes?

How alive are you compared to someone else?

How alive is a fat weak TV couch potato eating pizza, compared to a person who eats fresh vegetabls and runs 3 miles every morning without even breaking into a sweat?

It is all a matter of degree. It is all relative. it is all a matter of relative degrees of aliveness and deadness.

It is all a matter of relative strength and weakness.

BUT....

If you introduce the Principle and Dynamic of EGALITY... ah!

Then you CAN begin to measure thing more accurately.

For instance.... no two electrons are the same. Each one is unique. But they are all generally equal to each other. Becaue they exist in an fair playing field where neither can get any unfair advantage over the over: space.

SO! Let us say that two electrons are on a collision course with each other. If they do not change their direction; they will smash into each other.

Which one chickens out first? Which one veers away first? Which one is stronger than the other?

The answer is simple. The electron that has the stronger energy also has a larger, more powerful electomagnetic field around it. The weaker electron senses this field BEFORE it hits the stronger electronand veer away BEFORE the stronger electron does.

Why?

Because the weaker you are... the more vulnerable you are to energy that is stronger than you, the more sensitive you are to energy that is stronger than you. So you get out of the way in order not to be destroyed by the stronger energy.

If you see a bus heading towards you: you get out of the way because the bus is lager than you, and can kill you...

BUT... this is not a good analogy: because it is not based upon the principle of EGALITY. A large bus is not alive like a human. It is merely bigger, and has more dead mass to it. It is merely a majority of atoms.

A better example would be two people who weigh the same, have generally the same level of health and fitness and confidence... heading towards each other on a collision course walking towards each other. Which person will veer away from the other first?

but even that is not a good example:

Because one person may be more polite than the other, more humble than the other: and even though they are stronger, they will give way to the weaker person: merely so as not to hurt them... because they are more aware of others than the weaker person is.

This leads to the ethical question of 'Force Majeure' Brute force destroying weaker-smaller energy. Warriors killing babies. Tanks killing foot soldiers. Airplanes bombing and destroying tanks... All are example of unfairness. because there is no fair and equal playing field. Things that are not equal to each other: cannot be used as aan accurate measurement of which energy is weaker or stronger.

So... the more equality there is in human society: the less unfairness there is, the more strong energy can be noticed and valued. While weak energy can be noticed and de-valued.

A strong healthy person who does not live by hate and fear is stronger than a wek person who lives by hate and fear.

A person who does not have an ego: is stronger than a person who does have an ego.

A person who has a radiating sense of pure wonder is stronger than a person who does not have a radiating sense of pure wonder.

A strong healthy person who loves; is stronger than a weak person who hates.

A strong healthy person who loves and is sensitive to life, and has the attributes of kindness, generosity, sensitivity, joy, well-being, happiness, and good will towards others is stronger than a person who does not love anything, who is insensitive towards himself and others, is unkind towards others, is mean and spiteful towards others, is ungenerous, feels no jpoy or happiness, does not have a sense of well-being, is selfish, and has ill-will towards other people.

Basically: this is why I can laugh at the shriveled, spiteful, mean-spirited, envious, little souls on this forum... don't-you-know? And all of you can't laugh at me.

Weak people do not want to become healthy and happy. They want everyone to become just as weak and just as mean-spirited as they are.

Strong healthy people do not want to become weak and unhappy. They want everybody else to become just as happy and healthy as they are...

The problem is finding a fair-equal playingfield: so everything can equalize out, and then.... poof! Everybody is equal to each other, and there is no cause for envy or unhappiness.

BUT.... water does not only seek its own level... it seeks the HIGHEST level of equality possible. Liquid water evaporates and gains much more energy as a gas, than it ever had as a liquid.

If weak unhealthy people were put on an equal playing field with strong healthy people> the strong healthy people would RIP those weak unhealthy people off their asses and drag them outdoors and force them to become healthier. They would FORCE them to have fun. They would FORCE them to laugh and enjoy living.

Unfortunately: this cannot be done over a computer. It has to be done in person. Equally. Where all humans are equal to each other, and do not have any artificial advantages over others.

Am I getting through to any of you here yet?

Or are you all still refusing to get the picture?

I almost pissed myself this was so funny please continue.

ohhh look at the pretty colors

blind as a bat

copy me more! don't stop! o envious one

wrong: you ARE retarded: only a retard would even USE that word.

mommy make the bad man stop.

I just cant stop all that living energy is making me do it

you do not understand: you are asking the most empty-minded idiot here to come up with an idea of his own. He CAN'T do it. So he sneers at it because he CANNOT DO IT.

Don't you understand yet? This forum has the most empty minded idiots in all creation. All they CAN do is sneer at things that are not, and CANNOT be.

You are trying to create a rational philosophy: GOOD!

but you will never do it by ASKING what other people think.

Let me give you an example:

Once. a music student asked Beethoven how to compose a symphony...

He was I forget... 16 or so....

When beethoven suggested that he try some less ambitious goal: the impatient spoiled student broke out and cried:

yes! but YOU did it when you were only ----!!! years old!!

What was beethovens reply? He replied:

"Yes. Buit I did not ask HOW...."

get it?

Once somebody told me they wished they could play guitar like I did...

I asked then why.

They said so they could a certain lick I did on guitar.

HUH?

I told them that the only reason I play guitar is because i enjoy playing it.

I told them I played guitar for 20 yeas.

THEy replied: 'oh... that's too much practice. I don't have the disicipline it takes to practice an hour every day'

HUH???

The person did not understand that I do not 'practice' every day. I only play guitar whenI feel like it. because i enjoy it. Playing for 2-3 hours is not 'practice' for me. it is something I like doing.

they could not for the life of them imagine doing this.... because they did not ENJOY playing guitar inthe first place. They just wanted to become an expert guitar player without putting any effort into it, and that person INSTANTLY gave up; when i told them that it takes years to do it.

That is your problem...none of you want to put any effort into anything. You want to be GIVEN the answers INSTANTLY!

You even want your own philosophy to be given to you by OTHER PEOPLE!!

Do have any idea of how LAZY and pointless this is? And how futile it is?

TRy asking questions OF YOURSELF. Try NOT asking other people questions...

OOPS! that's HARD WORK! I don't LIKE doing that!

Well? If you do not like asking yourself questions. Do not expect other people to answer them FOR you. If you do not want to formulate your own philosophy: do not expect others to formulate it FOR you.

All the people on this forum are 100& NEGATIVE. They only know ONE response to anything that comes on this forum. That response is:

NO.

That is their answer to everything. they are nihilists of the most self-destructive sort. They destroy themselves by killing every original thought possible. they sneer at all things that are positive.

and THEN!!! these asses wait... expecting to be GIVEN!! something positive... just so they can shoot it down.

Give them the positive example of love? They will sneer at it and shoot it down. Give them ANY positive example of life they will sneer at it and shoot it down...

which is why i enjoy laughing at these assholes. They keep on waiting for something they can shoot down from me....

and I keep on shooting them down every time they come whining and begging for me to give them something positive they can shoot down with their negativity...

I enjoy laughing at their stupid negativity: they cannot fathom this. It irritates them to no end...

My advice is to leave this forum, and go live your own life.

these idiots will not understand this. Only a positive person will understand it.

don't bother trying... it might hurt your brain

Oh. Damn. I guess I'll just go slick some fat, middle-aged men down with oil and rub their muscles.

Read again points 2 and 3 of the specifications.
There isn't just a hypothesys that's "plaguing" my mind. There are several of them that lead to many implications. Implications which are complex and quite hard to understand (especially for the guys who haven't done philosophy).
I want to take things in steps, an an open discussion. It will be much better than just posting all stuff.
And also I don't want to write pages of stuff now, and rewrite them several times until I put them in a good form.
Just give me a chance goddamnit.

But if you want it this way, okay I will make another step.

There are two main groups:
I.Material/external world
1.objects of the material world.

II.Inner world which is the human, basically you. And you got:
1.Feelings
2.Thoughts
3.and you make Actions

But what about this things?
They just exists in a random way?
No they can't.
They are bounded by rules.

So tell me wiseguy which are the rules of action and influence betwen all this things?
When does a feeling happen?
Which are the categories of feelings?
What goal can we see that the feelings have.
What is your tendency to do actions?

What consequences does the anwers to the said above questions has?
The theory of determinsim and consequences are you a spectator to your life?
If everything exists then the implications on morality, ethics. What is good what is bad?
What matters for you in this life? Not what you exists but what you feel.
If this world was made that you feel sometimes very unpleaseant, or some people does have a very sufering life (like depression) what does it lead us to?
That this world doesn't care anything about us. There isn't any God or plan to point that this world cares about you.
And other implications that the anwers to the questions had that you could find out.

And I'm not gonna fuckin' write a several pages post.
So this is why I want it to make a discussion cause it would be way much better.
Better for you understanding, and for me writing.
So this is why, I'm doing this my way.
And yeah maybe I started with to obvious things, but that's the best start that came out of my mind.
(I changed the color of the text to empahsize it for you).

Now I'm out of here I don't have any mood to post things.

That's it, next posts we will be talking about the first questions, about the rules. (if I will want to )