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10-12-06

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Okey, if we were to change the future, then what we changed would never happened in first place therefore time travel is not possible, backwards. However going forwards in time is very possible. We just need to build a machine that can travel faster than light.

The future has not been set. Therefore we can influence the next event in the future. So you go to the shop in the future, but walk out without buying anything. Next event, you still have the money.




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10-13-06

actually, all you need to travel forward in time is take a few sleeping pills, slip into a cozy bed by the fire and wake up 15 hours in the future. but seriously, since time is already going that direction, i think cryogenics is a much more attractive means of time travel into the future. no? like in futurama. lol. all we have to do is find a way to put people into suspended animation, then it becomes trivially simple to travel into the future. you just wait.


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10-13-06

oh, and you can't exceed the speed of light for several good reasons. trust me on this one. even if you could, that would take you back in time, not forwards. the faster you move, the slower time goes for you.i suppose then that moving at incredible speeds approaching the speed of light would then be one way to achieve the suspended animation necessary for traveling into the future. the only problem is that at such incredible speeds you would have a hard time making an inhabitable area and keeping it close to earth. try putting it in an artificial orbit and the person will probably be sick all the time from the massive g's. such a fast moving ship would not naturally orbit the earth. and if you just shot the thing off linearly into space, when the guy had traveled forward in time he'd be so damned far away from earth he'd probably land on tatooine or something.


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10-13-06

Whats happening dudes?


Saw this quick programme called Time on BBC4 this evening. It was about Time and why time goes forward and if time could ever go backwards.

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10-14-06

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all we have to do is find a way to put people into suspended animation
WHOA!!!! Haven't you heard?! US scientists in Austrailia took a dog, withdrew all of its blood and filled it up with some kind of selene solution...froze it, took it out 3 hours later...reinjected the blood and reanimated the dog with absolutely no brain damage whatsoever!!!!!!!!

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WHOA!!!!!!! Haven't you heard again?!

Okay, this one is way out there, but it's an interesting little story and there's a lot of conspiracy theories and yaddah, yaddah, yaddah. Do you know of the band Iron Butterfly? They did that one hit psychadelic song "Inda Gadda Da Veda." Anywho, the lead singer was an incredible mathematician who happened to work for the military or navy or something. Anywho, he was assigned to a project concerning the speed of light and as the theory goes, he did very much in fact (so he stated) prove that it is possible to exceed the speed of light. Now the conspiracy goes as thus: shortly after proclaiming this, he got very paranoid, told his wife he loved her very much, then disappeared...only to be found dead somewhere. Apparent suicide or something. And coincidently, most of his work on the project disappeared. DUN! DUN! DUN!


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The real question is, can we change the past?
Actually, the real question is two parted:
Can we change the past (-and then we have-) Can we time travel?
Once the first is answered, we have all sorts of answers for the second half of the question.

In my research and philosophy, I find it only possibly that if we can travel through time, we can change the past. To not be able to would not make time travel possible. (Either that, or the future warps to meet what you have done in the past so that all events leading up to the point when you went in the past are the same. Kind of like winning it big only to come back a loser)
I find that if someone can't change the past, some very bad things would happen, such as your body being ripped apart by a Time "error" and distorting the universe/galaxy/whatever because you attempted to do something (like go back in time by 0.001 of a second).
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That was known as the "Zombie Dog" around my area. And I believe it was Salt Solution that they used to bring it back.
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Okay, this one is way out there, but it's an interesting little story and there's a lot of conspiracy theories and yaddah, yaddah, yaddah. Do you know of the band Iron Butterfly? They did that one hit psychadelic song "Inda Gadda Da Veda." Anywho, the lead singer was an incredible mathematician who happened to work for the military or navy or something. Anywho, he was assigned to a project concerning the speed of light and as the theory goes, he did very much in fact (so he stated) prove that it is possible to exceed the speed of light. Now the conspiracy goes as thus: shortly after proclaiming this, he got very paranoid, told his wife he loved her very much, then disappeared...only to be found dead somewhere. Apparent suicide or something. And coincidently, most of his work on the project disappeared. DUN! DUN! DUN!
Now, at first alot of what you said I didn't believe a word of when I first came to this site. But you haven't been wrong yet on this kind of thing as far as I can tell (or you were wrong and you admitted it), so I'll assume this is true.
Although this does raise another question:

If time travel is possible, what speed would you have to travel to attain it (assuming you had to have speed)? Is light fast enough? Is light to the second power fast enough?
More importently, what is time?
Time, I've found, to be the effects of decay. Bodies cannot live while being untreated. Therefor, if you stayed in perfect health you should be able to live as long as needed. What does time have to say about this? Does this defy the effects of time?

So yeah, lots of questions are in need to be answered before "Is time travel possible?" can be addressed.



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10-14-06

God made time travel impossible because it would be abused and means people would never learn.

If it was possible then it would cancel the event out and that would then become illogical in our laws of physics.

We would simply burn up or be crushed by pressure going at lightspeed.
Now Virtual reality could be possible.


Additional: Imagine you could go virtual reality and you could play, have sex or sit watching tv with anyone you liked?

For me, Gadget would be my choice.



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