You still haven't shown, craz, why god or gods would even care about earth. To use an analogy, earth is like a quark in the molecules that make up a football stadium. If the world were to go spinning out of control and explode, it would only affect a microscopic fraction of the universe. So, again. Why would god/gods care about us or earth or indeed anything? Since Gods are by definition self-contained systems, they have no need of outside stimulus or outside environments to survive and thrive.

you asked a question of why there is resentment out there, i offered an explaination. why post if you don't expect a response? i honestly dont care enough about others' beliefs to hold a true grudge, and i actually think christianity has some decent morals within it... but it's like communism, nice idea if people didn't use it for power. i just dont agree with their fundamentals, believing them to be short-sighted and belittling of our abilities as sentient beings... whoop-d-doo, i dont expect anyone to care or conform to that, but i do expect them to let me believe what i want (not that you're trying to do otherwise, just a generalization of christians)

Why did the Buddha--a being with infinite cosmic power, genius and wisdom--teach compassion? Compassion is a mark of holiness. Even in the most bloodthirsty ancient religions, compassion is glorified. If God is to be a God, then all good things are theirs.

i agree to a point... acceptance more than compassion though, as that is once again too humanitarian for me

How dare you, as a human, accept a humanitarian view?

Well hold on here just a minute now. Why can't my beliefs and yours co-exist, Guy_person? The only difference I see immediately in our theology, is that my Gods exist in a state of being utterly removed from humans and other planetary life, whereas your Gods are more involved in human life. Thus, one could theorize that my gods take care of the business of running the cosmos, while your gods take care of the business of running specific planets and specific races.

Because I'm not a monolater, I'm a monotheist.

who says i see myslef as human?

Your persistant refusal to cast off this daily coil says so. You live like a human, look like a human, (probably) smell like a human and certainly think like a human. To thine own self be true. Don't degrade yourself by making like you're anything but what you are.

how do you know how i think and exist? my tangible form does not connotate being human. was your jesus just human? or was he supposedly an extension of your god in human form for the sake of mortals?

So basically what your saying then, Guy_person, is that you refuse to acknowledge the existance or potential exists of any god other than the judeo-christian god? Don't flatter yourself. There is more to the universe and whats in it than you will ever find in a book written by and for the jews.

I never intended to show, it's not something that can be shown. While we're on the subject, can you show me half of the things you've presented as fact? I've never seen a nebulous with my own two eyes, I've seen pictures of them, but I've seen pictures of UFO's as well. The only difference is the people who take pictures of celestial formations and measure wavelengths are much much more credible, but you're still standing on the observations of another person.

To believe in God, I do not have to see him. I simply accept that he is there as I do many other things I've never seen. As I said, it would be useless to debate this, as you would have to prove to me that such a being does not exist, and I would have to prove to you that it does, and neither is possible.

Might I also add that it seems ironic that someone who uses the theory of chaos in their belief system refer to any happening, from the explosion of a planet, to the fluttering of a butterfly's wings (heh) to the implosion of the universe as a whole as any less of a happening than the other?

The response I expect was from people the question was intended for. I appreciate your insight, but you still took a fairly defensive stance against a simple question that wasn't even intended for you.

dont mistake cander for defense

My point is, if a God has an intelligence at all, why would said god care for something that is entirely dependant upon the whims and fancy of said god to exist? That is, the universe as we know it is a delicate balance of destructive principles and generative principles. If any one of these principles were to ever become unbalanced, the universal order, such as it is, would collapse, utterly destroying all life in the universe. Now, if the god has an intelligence anything like our own, then said god probably cares nothing for any given planet, though they might care about stellar and planetary formations that encompass septillions of forms, like a star cluster or a galaxy. See what I'm trying to say here?

Why do parents care for their babies? Why was I a vegetarian, and why did I value animal life so much that I would throw myself off balance and crash to the ground to avoid stepping on an ant? I shudder to think what type of person you must be if you have no concept of benevolence. Everything you mentioned about even the slightest thing being thrown of bringing and end to the universe is the same reason I believe in a God. From the creation of Earth to now has been, many people say, less than a blink of an eye to the universe as a whole, but I think it's been plenty of time for something to screw up royally. But we're still here. I don't ask you to believe in God because of this, but it's more than enough proof for myself.

Let me hone my theory down a little bit so that it makes a little more sense.

The Gods which exist as extra-universal, multi-cosmic entities, care nothing for us. The same way we do not, except in rare instances, care about ants or bacteria.

The Gods which exist as race and planet specific dieties, care about us (in most cases) because we are closer to their level of existance.

Maybe now what I'm saying makes a some sense, craz?

Watch the news sometime, you should get an idea of exactly how many people are scared to death of bacteria. I valued the life of ants, and I have one friend who always opted to toss insects outside rather than kill them. He's fat, too, so it's not like it's easy for him to catch the things. That these are only rare cases makes little difference, they still show the capacity to humans, made in God's image, to act as He does. I've understood your idea of scale since the moment you've brought it up, but you're trying to apply size to something as infinately expansive as the universe. You think this is grounds to judge planets as small, I think it is grounds to judge everything as the same.

What you're saying may work fine for you, as well it should, but you're still presenting it as fact. Now, if you're not presenting it as fact and just trying to decribe what you beleive, then I apologize, and I reiterate that I think it's a very structured and cohesive cosmology.

You dangerously misunderstand. First of all, since you didn't catch it the first two times, maybe the third time's the charm--I reject biblical authority. God is far too vast a being to be contained in such a miniscule writing. So yes, there is much more to the universe than what's in the Bible. I never said otherwise and you will never find, in all of my thousands of posts, a single word that would imply such.

Second, you have no clue as to what my idea of God is. I say I'm christian, but you have demonstrated that you have no working knowledge of what a christian is or thinks like. All of what you see as separable gods working apart from eachother--although influenced by the others--may well be reconciled in the sense that no indeed, they are all part of a greater working.

Okay let me put into perspective what I'm really saying here.

Planetary gods have the following qualities.

1. They are material.
2. They have a measurable intellect, life span, and physical existance.
3. They have limited authority over specific concepts and planetary laws.
4. They are usually enlightened persons of the dominant race of the planet in question.
5. They eventually grow old and die.
6. Their acts are recorded in what could be termed mythology.
7. They are limited to one planet or solar system.

Now for the extra-cosmic multiuniversal gods.

1. They exist as energy.
2. They function purely on instinct.
3. Their power and authority is limitless*.
4. They exist outside of time and space.
5. They are capable of traveling to and from other universes.
6. They never die.
7. They exist utterly beyond any planetary or biological expression of life.

Now maybe what I'm saying makes more sense, Craz. Maybe now you can see how our beliefs could peacefully coexist.

* -However, since they lack conscious intellect, their powers normally only express themselves in specific ways.

Co-existance is what I've been preaching since the beginning. My problem was with you trying to show me the reasons why the God I believe in didn't exist. We're past that now, though, so I'm more than willing to say that your gods and my God are the same, just broken down differently.