If one looks at how the basic galaxy is made up, or even just our little Solar System, you'll notice something. Stuff revolves. It revolves about and about, not only around other things but it turns around itself. This continually turning is not just limited to the planets or the moons, but also to the entire galaxy itself. Yes, the whole galaxy is revolving. This occurs elsewhere as well, and one must wonder if there is more to the revolving than what we have currently seen. Is there something around which all galaxy's are moving? Some massive black hole or central point of the universe? Or am I just insane and think too oddly?

we all revolve around the initial point of the spread of existence. this point is elusive. it moves through the void even as we move from it. there lies the mouth of god. and from it the word is spoken and his breath touches that which is not, giving birth to creation, to existence. the shift is from polar to polar, and thus very violent...insane violence. the nothing and the everything shake in the presence of his breath. time is and is not. light and dark are one. and at the horizon of his voice is omega. the last of this is there at the begining. and the begining of it lies at the end.

erm... right...

take it to religion, monkey...



as for rotation... i can see what you mean on a macro scale... and perhaps there are even issues as such in the micro. but what about the standard (normal). i tend not to roll in on myself and, during sex, i don't often find my partner spinning around me. spinning UPON me, maybe, but...

erm, right...

take it to the bad poser witty commentary forum, dumbass....

god is not religious, man is.

i was describing the initial point of the big bang. it moves through the void as we move away from it. at that point, the last of existence lingers. while at the point furthest away lies that wich was created first. often man has thought that we birthed from a dance of lovers, who spun round and round in laughter and merry, and from their dance sprang forth a manifestation of their childish love and hence came the stars and the stellar dusts and in celebration of their bearers they too partook of the dance among themselves. and now even, my cells celebrate the beauty that is everywhere in this. imitating in childish mockery the lovely dance of our father and mother.

Cyclic theory of the universe states that everything is a cycle .. and that is true if you think about it. day night, water cycle, nitrogen cycle, hormonal cycles, seasons, planets, atoms, life and death.. our solar system is revolving around something too..

The theory states that the big bang is just part of the cycle and there will be a time with the big bang will cause the universe to stop expanding and like a rubber band will start shrinking.. which will be the Big shrink till everything even time goes back.. and then everything starts over again.

but there are other theories too.. mostly religious.. like muslims revolve around the kaaba.. etc..

I think your descriptions were beautiful, Satanic Monkey.

All things cyclical...hmmm, I still have a problem with why all the planets are spherical.

To expand on your 'rubber band' theory Garg, I have seen evidence that instead of our universe slowing down in it's expansion, it is, in fact speeding up.

This might sound stupid..but how do we know it's expanding?

Cause all the galaxies are moving away from us

Yeah. they say its at the speeding up phase.. they speculate that it will start slowing down.. some day..

Some people who believe in reincarnation claim that this theory supports reincarnation.. that once the big shrink ends.. and another big bang occurs then everything starts over again.. and then spirits get reborn

So they're all moving directly away from our galaxy?
That would mean we'd be at the center of the universe if it was expanding.

he didn't say directly.. did he? O_O Take an uninflated balloon and cover it with dots. Each point represents a galaxy. When you inflate the balloon, the points move away from one another. Notice that no matter which point you choose to represent your location, all points move away from it. doesn't mean that any dot is the center.

they can't measure the distance between the galaxies.. but they get light from them... the frequency of the light from these galaxies is changing.. it is changing to red end of the light spectrum... the amound of the shift is measured... and that number is called the redshift

1. You're making it out that the position of the galaxy's are in a spherical fashion.

2. All the dots would remain at the same distance except for those at different locations pertaining to the spherical positioning, meaning the central point would be easily pinpointed by taking all of that crippity crap and inputting it in, and uh..what's it called? You're smarter than me dammit what's it called?!

3. Just because some of them are moving away doesn't mean the universe is expanding. It just means that the galaxies are capable of moving beyond the spinning itself. For all you know they could be following a..uh...what's it called? Thing earth goes about on.

This is why no sleep is bad.

1.. since the big bang was an explosion.. the universe looks like an explosion which is sphericalish I think o_O

2.. ok. I do not understand..

3.. well.. they meaure the light coming from the galaxies.. like I posted above "they can't measure the distance between the galaxies.. but they get light from them... the frequency of the light from these galaxies is changing.. it is changing to red end of the light spectrum... the amound of the shift is measured... and that number is called the redshift"

cool thing is that if the universe is expanding then we are expanding at the same rate as everything around us so we can't tell.. but we're expanding too.. whee.. maybe somethings expand faster than stuff around us.. and that causes obesity O_O

We say a big bang happened. That's nice..but how long ago and why is it that it's continually going outward? If you're going to go with momentum and the such you'd have to say that it'd continue outward forever. Not a universal increase in overall size but an increase in the distance from the central point due to the momentum. When there is no friction there is a continual movement. It's why in space you need to be careful of your movements.

As for #2 as I said, needed sleep. The first mini-part was idiocy.
Second part dealt with finding the central point of the universe by studying the distances of all the galaxies, as well as studying how they were moving. Pretty much follow all of their trajectories back to where they'd meet. That'd give you the center.

And up next is this! If we're actually moving in an orbital fashion rather than an outward fashion one could say that our orbit heads -> while a bunch of other galaxies go <-
Or one could say that we're moving further outward in our swing, so that we'll actually loop waaay out and then come back in.

However one thing I recall from my days of being bored is one scientist having a theory that in a few million years our galaxy and another will collide. This is due to the way that things are currently moving. I think..it was either alpha centauri related crap or andromeda.

I heard that same thing about there being another universe on a collision course with ours.

A universe colliding with a universe? That doesn't sound plausible in any way...except if you adhere to the micro to macro comparison.

Example: Earth and sun, solar system and black hole, galaxies and ?, universe and ?

Pretty much it all works up and up and up, with a thing going about a thing and it keeps doing that thing..yup.

So a universe hitting another universe would be possible. Chances of said thing happening are probably low(in my life time at least).

funny, for last nite my roomies and i were talkin sorta along the same lines...........anyway, what we concluded was that existence is forever, yet that does not mean physical existence, just existence.....yet, as it so happens to be, existence is metaphysical......now, if metaphysical/existence is forever, then it is best to percieve it as being circular for if infinity appears linear then it gives heed to the idea of a "beginning"....anyway, if it is circular, existence/metaphysical, then it is likely to think of physical existence appearing linear for a period of time...........such as, a red section on what is a green circle.....anyway, yeah....it was pretty fucking indepth....

[quote=satanic monkey]erm, right...

take it to the bad poser witty commentary forum, dumbass....
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keep it civil, son...

ope ope ope, you can't give birth to existence.....if, per se, existence, was birthed, what was it birthed from? evidently, something which exists......and surely non-existence cannot birth existence, for a) thats a contradiction in terms, and b) non-existence does not exist....anyway, yeah...