Sorry.

Due to the recent decision of a particular moderator who shall remain unnamed, my other thread to express my feeling on life has been closed. This decision was probably made in light of its title, "Hear Me," believing it to be some testament to my own ego and the mod's belief that ancient wisdom rehashed are simple platitudes, putting them on the level of Hallmark greeting cards and bumper stickers. My apologies for my ambition, I wished not to be a pedagogue, but, rather, a provoker of thought.

Oops.

This is not a direct attack on the very respectable moderator who shall remain nameless, nor even an indirect one. I was told by him to "deal," this is how I deal. I pick up, I find soem other doorway. If any of these "platitudes" provoke thought or bring to mind some other "platitude," please share it.

By the by...

Look up the meaning of the word, "platitudes."

W/o any further ado...

1. Let there be great emnity and rivalry, but not not hatred between those who fight wars and those who fight for peace. But also let there be a great love between them and all others, as well, because we are all brothers and sisters. And, to quote Martin Luther King Jr., "We are innevitably our bother's keeper because we are our brother's brother."

2. Don't try to be perfect. We are broken and often disjointed beings. It is impossible to fill in and close the cracks ourselves; we are nothing. Look out to all things, to all of creation nad enter through the crags in your being to the greatness that is inside of you, flowing from all places.

3. My mantra: "Nothing, I am nothing, I came from nothing, and I will go back to nothing." And everything just sort fo disappears.

4. <(._.)> Yoda says: "Luminous beings we are, not this weak matter."

5. Bruce Lee Sez: "Even though happiness is good for the body, sorrow is good for the soul."

6. Rumi: "Instead of being so caught up in everyone, be everyone."

7. A young boy went to a candy store. He made pleasant conversation with the old man working at the shop and the other boys there, too. He had no money, but enjoyed being there, anyway. When the shop keeper had his back turned, the boy tried to take a red vine. The other boys in the shop just turned away, not wantign to be blamed for his guilt. The shop keeper turned back and said, " I know what you are up to, you are obvious to me, leave, now, don;t come back, but don't worry about it." The boy left in tears, utterly ashamed and remorseful, he threw away his red vine and fell on his knees in an alley. He wept and prayed. Finally, he shrugged off his guilt, shame and anger, so that he could go home.... and became enlightened

8. First was nothing. Then pleausre and pain spiraled out from it. Then labor and calm spun from them. And from labor, life. And form calm, death. Originally, calm came from pleasure. But Labor came from pain.

Without pain, there is no labor worked, without labor worked, there is no life lived. If no life is lived, no life will die, no calm can be struck and no bliss will ever be reached. The pain will never end until you let it.

9. You are limited only by you ability to limit yourself. Unlock the prison of doubt and fear and remorse inside your soul and see the light brighter than ten thousand suns and shine it on all things, melting away the chanmbers than bind them similarly.

10. Surrendering Fear: It is not so much about being fearless, or incapable of experiencing fear, it is about constantly just surrendering any fear that grows. If you can't feel fear, you lose a lot of your humanity. But.... well, true power is tremendous capability along with utter deprivation of all the things that get in capability's way.

11. The potter makes the pot
The empty holds the soul

The clay is what we see
The empty holds what we want

The life that is does fills the pot
The empty does not empty be

The clay doth dry
The empty die

The pot is full
The clay is scraped

The clay, it cries
The soul asks why

The pot is not full of sadness
The pot is empty

12. Why lie
When we could weep?
Why try
When we could wish?
Why live
When we could dream?
Why want
When we could have?
Why work
When we could die?
Why be
When we could lie?

13. Passion and misery. Those are the things we get from living. Passion leads to dissillusionment, and thus, misery. But it doesn't have to be so, it is best to use misery as fuel for passion. You don't have to experience misery, but what would you have passion for, then? Passion in excess of normal human passion, but under control is true power.

14. I think it's really sad, disturbing, and kind of amusing that the Bible, the single most printed book for the past several hundred years, and probably the most quoted one is also almost completely misunderstood by its readers, both those that are its believers and those that despise it.

15. Islam, to submit one's whole being to the will of God. It would be absolutely simple if the mind and body were not so defiant. The mind wants nothign but to be close to and submit to God. Thus, some claim, we should kill off the body, so the midn will go with it and then the soul can love God unhindered. But it is submission of one's whole being to God's will. The soul is sheer akasha, nothingness, wihtout the body to experience for it and the mind to direct it.

16. Carl Sandberg was asked on his death bed what the most vile, most despicable word in the whole english language was. He said "Exclusivism."

Which reminds me. Even Lao Tsu, that real wise dude, had pride, he named his work "Tao Te Ching," or "Way of Life," as if he could define life in a single tome.

oh and by the way, the definition stands...

cliche quotes...but the candy store story had a good moral Did you you a search to find them all?

Heres some that I like.I put it on another forum too though:

So many of our dreams at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we summon the will, they soon become inevitable.
Our doubts are traitors,And make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt.
The purpose of life is a life of purpose.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.
Until doubt began, progress was impossible.

RULES FOR KIDS - from the book "Dumbing Down our Kids" by educator Charles Sykes.
RULE 1 Life is not fair - get used to it.
RULE 2 The world won't care about your self-esteem. The world will expect you to accomplish something BEFORE you feel good about yourself.
RULE 3 You will NOT make 40 thousand dollars a year right out of high school. You won't be a vice president with car phone, until you earn both.
RULE 4 If you think your teacher is tough, wait till you get a boss. He doesn't have tenure.
RULE 5 Flipping burgers is not beneath your dignity. Your grandparents had a different word for burger flipping they called it Opportunity.
RULE 6 If you mess up,it's not your parents' fault, so don't whine about your mistakes, learn from them.
RULE 7 Before you were born, your parents weren't as boring as they are now. They got that way from paying your bills, cleaning your clothes and listening to you talk about how cool you are. So before you save the rain forest from the parasites of your parent's generation, try delousing the closet in your own room.
RULE 8 Your school may have done away with winners and losers, but life has not. In some schools they have abolished failing grades and they'll give you as many times as you want to get the right answer. This doesn't bear the slightest resemblance to ANYTHING in real life.
RULE 9 Life is not divided into semesters. You don't get summers off and very few employers are interested in helping you find yourself. Do that on your own time.
RULE 10 Television is NOT real life. In real life people actually have to leave the coffee shop and go to jobs.
RULE 11 Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working for one

Those are both very nice, Red. You are very wrong, rogue, but I admire your sternness. From my first two posts, 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, and 15 are from my own little egotistical head. The candy store story is from my life.

baka...

baka?

Whatchooo smiling about, Dynny?

I'd like to ressurect this thread... if ya'll don;t mind. Post any Platitudes or cliche but still wise bits you've got. Share in the filthy wisdom!!!!!

one more from me: There is no knowledge that is not gainful, the loss comes in its use.

Once I saw that a spider built its web amongst a cobweb. It was very small, maybe the size of a watch button. An unassuming fly came straight down idiotically into he ragged dust-weighted web. the spider, I suspected, was excited... a meal... one bigger than itself. The fly struggled a bit and thensort of gave up as the spider approached to feed. suddenly the fly sprang into action, fighting it roughly and well, like a capable spider and fly would be expected to fight. The fly easily whipped bakc the spider... I waited and watchedc for almost ten minutes.. the spider was clearly dead. The fly was also dead, however... in fighting, the fly used the last of its energy, so it was incapable of escaping the web. Useless, it's all useless. The web, the spider, the fly, all of it, useless. Eat or be eaten... and sometimes it's time to die.

The following I found in White Wolf's The Book of Worlds, it has a bunch of quotes from very quotable fellows and ladies, which i just, well, stole.

People see things as they are and ask why. I dream of things that never were and ask why not. --George Bernard Shaw.

By degrees -- it is happening year by year, appliance by appliance -- we wiring ourselves into a gigantic hive. --Sven Birkerts

One half of the world cannot understand the pleasure of the other. --Jane Austen

His Said "Science Is Truth Found Out." Mine said "The Truth Can Be Make Up If You Know How." -- Jane Wagner

Death hath a thousand doors to let out life; I shall find one. --Philip Massinger

There is no metaphysical, super-ordinary, final, absolute reality. --James Burke

The Universe is a Practical Joke of the General at the Expense of the Particular, quoth FRATER PERDURABO, and laughed. But those disciples nearest to him wept, seeing the Universal Sorrow. Those standing next to them laughed, seeing the Universal Joke. --Aleister Crowley

The world is a beautiful book, but of little use to him who cannot read it. --Carlo Goldoni.


Discuss...?

"Nothing in the world was so bad as physical pain." - George Orwell