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Might makes right - 07-22-04

There's one very real reason why this philosophy is impractical: Nukes.

The mighty have become so much so that were they to clash, they would perish along with the not-so-mighty.

Unless you think comple human extinction is a good thing, might doesn't make right.
  
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07-22-04

Unchecked might makes ignorance another form of wrong not to be confused with right lol. What does make right? I cant say NOONE can say with any true certanty. I defy anyone to deffine right and wrong without personal opinions. I also extremly challenge ANYONE to justify might makes right in an irrefuttable way. Which means no "because I say" idioticy.


To define what is you in turn define what is not. Deffinition creates a form of existance even in nonexistants.
  
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07-22-04

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I defy anyone to deffine right and wrong without personal opinions.
I don't think you can define it any other way. After all, what are the general agreements on what is right and wrong if not the collection of individual's feelings?

It's the differences in those feelings and opinions that make right and wrong all but impossible to define exactly.
  
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07-22-04

That was exactly my point lol.


To define what is you in turn define what is not. Deffinition creates a form of existance even in nonexistants.
  
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07-22-04

Well...I think nukes are the great equalizer in that way. The US and Russia both had enough to destroy the earth many many times over at the height of the Cold War. Isn't one time enough? I'm sure we still have the nuclear capability for at least one time, if not more.

Uh...might may make right for the people with the might, but it puts them in a bad position with the people who don't yet have it. Did that make any sense?


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07-22-04

made sense to me


To define what is you in turn define what is not. Deffinition creates a form of existance even in nonexistants.
  
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07-22-04

Might never makes right, it just makes a faux rightness.
People who are the victims of the mighty often look at the "right" unleashed by that might and see it as an oppression, or an abomination.

Basically, the "right" in this case is completely subjective.


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07-22-04

"Might makes right" resolves to "last man standing" resolves to extinction. Plain and simple...


... Time has no bearing...
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07-26-04

Might is right in the lives of the weak and scared. Divide and conquer.


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07-29-04

and yet, might makes right has been so thoroughly evident throughout history, thus....he and his people with the might, should make right.....i'd rather the world be in our hands than in the hands of columbians or some shit


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when in our history did might make right?
  
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oh my fucking god man!!!!! itz in histroy....y'know, all those big bad ass empires and kings and shit?

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07-29-04

I already explained at length how might makes right. If you don't recognize that fact of life, you're living in a fantasy world. Morality doesn't stop bullets.

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agrees....*applauds synikul*


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oh my fucking god man!!!!! itz in histroy....y'know, all those big bad ass empires and kings and shit?

duh
what made them right?
  
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their might.....gah!


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I already explained at length how might makes right. If you don't recognize that fact of life, you're living in a fantasy world. Morality doesn't stop bullets.
So if you had bullets flying at you, would you grab a child and use him for cover?

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could you be more specific, maybe copy and paste your explaination here?
  
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their might.....gah!
so then 'right' has no definition other than 'might'?
  
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I already explained at length how might makes right. If you don't recognize that fact of life, you're living in a fantasy world. Morality doesn't stop bullets.

Native Americans

If might makes right it means:
Terrorists are right, since they're mightier than the civilians who they kill annually.
Hitler was right, because he was mightier than 12 million people.


Starting to get the idea?

Also, if might made right then why did America fight against the might that was in place upon it by the UK? If might was indeed right, it would mean that America being an extension of the UK would therein be right, and thus no reason behind which to fight back against it.


Might does not make right.


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eh....you're taking point A and turning it into point B......the topic of discussion is goverments and communities, etc.....not man grabbing child to protect the bullet.....even thatz not the issue, as it clearly appears that the man with the gun has the might and right over the man without a gun....even if he does use a child for protection

the point is, someone will always be on top....history has shown us that this is the case.....and it should be......but the question is who? better more liberal's call the shots than back-assward child rapin' sand-fuckers

also, army doesn't necessarily make might these days....economy does....thatz how we are able to remain as a hyper-power....our economy and political structure keeps us at top.....however, china is coming up awfuly fast.......they have the largest army in the world, prove communism can work, and their economy is swelling enormously......


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