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or the argument under the false premise used most often by me: I am God therefore I am right...even if i am wrong...i am now right because i say so.
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Quote: Originally posted by Tentacledead
or the argument under the false premise used most often by me: I am God therefore I am right...even if i am wrong...i am now right because i say so. | is that god or man with that stance, how can anyone know what god really thinks about him or herself...why does a god have to be something greater than a man, couldn't they just be a person that achieved greatness, and those not so great needed to aspire to something higher, a simple mind unable to comprehend that lightening struck a tree, but rather it was the force of some mighty unknown, and that if it struck their house it was god's will because they displeased that greatness? Why does it always come down to god, can't it just be man?
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yes it can...hence why i'm god
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anyone can be a god or goddess in their mind...some just have the charisma to convice others...
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I'm not charismatic...i have a friend who is and personally those inhalers look very inconveniant.
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 hmmm it think you may be able to use this link... www.dictionary.com...it helps!
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ahh so you're attempting humor that is being missed...how clever...
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12-17-02
thank you x
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howabout--if there was no god, the world as well as nature would have no order, since there is in fact order in nature, then there must be a god | |
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Assumes that order in nature is not natural but artificaly imposed. Quote: Originally posted by Jordyn
the more logical the arguement...the more illogical it sounds to me...but reading over this it seems many are guilty of such actions in debates...... | Am I one of them? Cant remember half the stuff I`ve talked about on here.
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say? I'm crazy? When I went to your schools, I went to your churches, I
went to your institutional learning facilities. So how can you say that I'm
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Sixgun_Symphony is the posterchild for logical fallacy...
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What an awesome thread.
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Quote: Originally posted by ssecret132
howabout--if there was no god, the world as well as nature would have no order, since there is in fact order in nature, then there must be a god | I don't see how that follows... The Laws of Thermodynamics are that a) energy can never be created or destroyed, only converted from one form to another, b) The Entropy (disorder) in a system increases in the course of every energy conversion and c) The Entropy in any system can never be zero...
Translated into English, this means that a) You can't win, b) You can't break even, and c) You can't leave the game.
Eventually, the entropy of the Universe will become so great that every energy resevoir will be used up, and at that point, life will no longer be able to exist, since we rely on energy conversion for our survival... | |
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Quote: Originally posted by ssecret132
howabout--if there was no god, the world as well as nature would have no order, since there is in fact order in nature, then there must be a god | That's begging the question:
You are assuming that God creates order, that without God there would be no order, etc-in order to validate God.
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12-17-03
What about the ontological argument:
Take the perfect being. Call him God. If he is perfect then all of his properties must be as good as they can possibly be. Whether or not something exists is one of its properties. The perfect being, i.e. God, must therefore exist.
It's a bit better than my brother's argument:
God exists, because it says so in the bible. We can trust the bible because it is the word of God, and God is omniscient and right about everything. We know this because it says so in the bible. Hmmm... | |
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Originally Posted by Arty What about the ontological argument:
Take the perfect being. Call him God. If he is perfect then all of his properties must be as good as they can possibly be. Whether or not something exists is one of its properties. The perfect being, i.e. God, must therefore exist. | Existance is needed for perfection, for perfection to create existance. It sounds like a broken loop to me. Taking a conceptual being and giving it the ability to create itself will still not break through the fact that it exists in concept alone and will naturally not be able to make use of that ability. (headache tablet please)
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Uh SIR...did you study this to become a lawyer??? or is it just a hobby? ^^
-- Mana, what kind of person do you consider yourself to be?
Mana: Definitely a shy person. (awkward laugh)
-- In what ways?
Mana: I'm not very sociable. I can't approach people I don't know and chat with them, nor do I really have any desire to have a conversation. Um, when I do have the chance to socialize with others they usually say something like "want to go out for a drink?". That kind of situation has hardly any substance, so I won't let myself be invited, nor will I invite others. (laughs)
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