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Philosophy Discuss Killing in the Debate and Discussion forums; Originally Posted by turak None of you get it... All of you are living in your safe little fantasy world. You are already killers. You kill everyday. Every day you ...
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12-06-06

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None of you get it...

All of you are living in your safe little fantasy world.

You are already killers. You kill everyday. Every day you buy a killed chicken that someone else killed FOR you: you are a killer.

Every day you but a hamburger made of dead meat from a living animal that someone killed FOR you... you are a killer.

Every day you eat a tomatoe that someone pickesd FOR you: you are killing all the living seeds in it, which could have sprouted and lived if you hadn't killed and eaten it.

Every living thing you kill to eat: makes you a killer of LIFE and of living things.

None of you are capabable of an intelligent discussion on the ethics and morals of killing because none of you are ready to admit that all of you are already killers.

You have this aversion to killing a living humn... but nothing else?

So?

This logic is insane. It means that killing every other living thing on Earth EXCEPT human beings is okay.

But without trees which you kill everyday when you use poper products, and without all the living tjongs on Earth today which you ignore:

How can you live?

The only reason you are alive is because other living things SUPPORT YOUR LIFE.

But... you do NOTHING to support or nuture other living things.

In fact: all of you would be better off dead.

If every human being was killed: the entire Earth would be HAPPIER and HEALTHIER than it is now.

You seem to think the Earth is designed to support your meaningless existence.

It is not. It will never support people like you.

BY taking all other living things for granted... and ignoring the fact that all of you kill living things every day: your question becomes meaningless and pointless.

You ask a stupid question: 'could you kill someone'?

You do not put your question into any context.

What if you were in a room with a very muscular person who hated your guts? And wanted to kill you? What if there was only one knife in that room?

Would yoube able to wrestle that person away from the knife, and then take that knife and KILL HIM with it>? eh? eben though you did not hate them? Just to insure your pointless survival?

Because if you don't... he SURE AS HELL WILL KILL YOU.

So try it. Do the experiment. Put two people in a room with only one knife. Tell them nobody will be allowed out until one of them kills the other.

Then you have a choice: either one of you kills the other and lives... or both of you do not kill each other and both of you starve to death... slowly.

After you have done this experiment: THEN come back and tell us if you are capable of killing... or if you never come back: then we will mercifully not have to listen to this adolescent rambling of spoiled consumer kids ,who do not have the faintest notion of what they are speaking of.
Does this mean you will be killing yourself sometime soon? I hope so.
  
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The funny thing is that life exists to feed off of other life. All life does this.



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12-06-06

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Dear uninformed, uneducated, misinformed illogical, idiot:

until you find the facts: do not spout your idiotic opiinion here as facts.
Can you be uninformed and misinformed at the same time? If you're uninformed you have no information. If you're misinformed you have the wrong information. So... how can you have the wrong information if you don't have any information to begin with?


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Looking for all the wrong adjectives he was... aye.... yep....

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Only if you sex me up slowly first.


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Only if you sex me up slowly first.
Whensomebody tries to kill you: you will not be laughing. you will be screaming.

Laugh at all the people you see on the media who have been killed.

Then try laughing when you are killed.

Make a big joke about death.

Until you die.

Then Tell me and I will come laugh at you while you die.
  
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12-06-06

Wait wait. Are you talking about when someone TRIES to kill me? Or when they SUCCEED in killing me? Because if they only try, then I don't die. And how am I supposed to tell you after I'm dead so you can come laugh at me even though it's already happened?

That's the third time I've ngrpwned you. Keep em coming.


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Wait wait. Are you talking about when someone TRIES to kill me? Or when they SUCCEED in killing me? Because if they only try, then I don't die. And how am I supposed to tell you after I'm dead so you can come laugh at me even though it's already happened?

That's the third time I've ngrpwned you. Keep em coming.
This is a perfect example of asinine fools; thinking they are making 'brownie points' by being 'more right'.

Your brownie points are: you will continue to live like a fool until you die.

When you die: other people will laugh.

But you won't be laughing.

The brownie point system is a personal fantasy that very mentally sick people invent for themselves... I suggest you get professional help before you start talking to yourself... as you are doing now.
  
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12-08-06

I'm gonna have to say yes, for a couple of reasons: #1 Because for all I know it is written on Death's list that someone is to die by my hand, in some manner, and there is nothing they or I can do to stop that from happening #2 I have very little regard for the welfare, and well being of most of the people in this world they are annoying aggrivating, and just plain stupid at times, and is circumstance affords me the chance to remove one such person from this planet, you goddamn right I'm gonna take it. I don't see it as murder, I see it as a form of eugenics
  
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I'm gonna have to say yes, for a couple of reasons: #1 Because for all I know it is written on Death's list that someone is to die by my hand, in some manner, and there is nothing they or I can do to stop that from happening #2 I have very little regard for the welfare, and well being of most of the people in this world they are annoying aggrivating, and just plain stupid at times, and is circumstance affords me the chance to remove one such person from this planet, you goddamn right I'm gonna take it. I don't see it as murder, I see it as a form of eugenics
hmmm: borderline psychotic.
  
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Psychology too



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Not really, its a natural law, you eliminate the weaker, less competent members of a species to improve the overall strength of said species. Darwin's Law of Natural Selection, just sped up. Mind you I am not referring to those who are incompetent due to mental defects, such as mental retardation, just those who would be capable of better if they tried, but view ignorance as a good excuse to get through life
  
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Not really, its a natural law, you eliminate the weaker, less competent members of a species to improve the overall strength of said species. Darwin's Law of Natural Selection, just sped up. Mind you I am not referring to those who are incompetent due to mental defects, such as mental retardation, just those who would be capable of better if they tried, but view ignorance as a good excuse to get through life

And what exactly are YOU competent at? Nothing?
  
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Nothing that concerns you
  
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Nothing that concerns you
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The last resort of a liar... SILENCE!!

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So you actually are competent at nothing.... Why don't you go to school and learn something?
  
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I am gonna use Crypt's signature here(sorry man, but it fits) I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person. Good luck with life.
  
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The funny thing is that life exists to feed off of other life. All life does this.
and now to elaborate on why i bother. The first things that existed were probably chemotrophs, meaning they used chemical potentials around them to drive processes much like archebacteria of today. Next did not come autotrophs but heretotrophs, meaning these things only existed by engufling and denaturing some other lifeform.

My other thoughts, are that i'm glad i'm female. I actually agree that if there ever were a draft (which it isnt logical to have one, really) that females should be drafted too (please dont argue this it'll be a herring but stay with me here. and i dont care of your opinion on this either and wont entertain an arguement here, make a new thread). However, if i ended up being enlisted and killed someone, or just on the street or in self defence or whatever.....I dont think i could live with it. I mean, i had to deal with guilt that helped drive me to diagnosable mental rawrgness from being raped...forget actively taking someones life.


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I am gonna use Crypt's signature here(sorry man, but it fits) I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person. Good luck with life.
Poor baby.... oooooh!

wits?

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What's the matter?

Baby never been laughed at?

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To agree,

and now to elaborate on why i bother. The first things that existed were probably chemotrophs, meaning they used chemical potentials around them to drive processes much like archebacteria of today. Next did not come autotrophs but heretotrophs, meaning these things only existed by engufling and denaturing some other lifeform.

My other thoughts, are that i'm glad i'm female. I actually agree that if there ever were a draft (which it isnt logical to have one, really) that females should be drafted too (please dont argue this it'll be a herring but stay with me here. and i dont care of your opinion on this either and wont entertain an arguement here, make a new thread). However, if i ended up being enlisted and killed someone, or just on the street or in self defence or whatever.....I dont think i could live with it. I mean, i had to deal with guilt that helped drive me to diagnosable mental rawrgness from being raped...forget actively taking someones life.
you need serious help.... disasscociative complex is not a joke. it makes it almost impossible to function in the real world. Are you on a prescription?
  
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at the time i was speaking of i should have been medicated and i did not function well in the real world. that second part of that post though was complete and total opinion based on only my own experience, no real base to it but throwing it out there to answer the question.


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