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Intelligence at the exclusion of morality? - 05-21-02

That title would be so much more promising if I wasnt behind it.

Finding explanations and slowly coming to the global realisation that evil is relitive, have we become so contemplative about morality that we are in fact slowly bypassing what used to be and possably still should be true?

I mean is intellligence and debate becoming a subsititue for moral inaction?


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This is an intriguing question; one I was contemplating just the other day.

I do not believe in a universal morality of "good" and "bad." So should I be morally inactive?

The one universal moral that I have considered is in doing what you think is "right."

But what if my "right" is your "wrong." Would I be "good" or "evil?"


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You`d be good in your eyes and bad in mine in that single aspect but at least neither of us would be indifferent.
A extremly sadistic human being would do whats right in their eyes, looking out for their own pleasure at the expense of others but that will be (rightly imo) stopped by most "good" people from doing so.
If that person isnt a person and is a country or a religion instead (doing supposed immoral things localy not interationaly)through we are reconmended not to pass judgement on them by our own standards because its all relitive.


"Humans rights is not a monoploy of the west"

However true that sentance maybe in alowing the freedom of other countries is it a just freedom?


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I don't know... personally, I hate separating people by saying "us" and "them."

I don't consider myself to belong to "us," so what do I care about who's right or wrong? I just wish the childish bickering and infighting would stop.


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Some guy has the thong song turned on right outside my window.. so I cant think properly.. Redmeat.. can you clarify what you said in ur original post a little more.. I'm not sure what you mean.
  
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No problem, I`m a mess most of the time with these things.

Its about the whole live and let live attitude we use when examining other peoples or groups actions that I feel has come about through intellectualizing morality and increasing individualism.

People can now explain the use that "evil" has in the world or are more reluctant to judge (and therefore opress?) another cultures actions.If evil seen as useful (which it can be)even by the select few rather than an abomination then imo it will lose its effect and main constructive source, the counter reaction.

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I think the best example of this is the medical profession rejecting herbal treatments as pretty much nonsense and as something that couldnt considered effective by any forward thinking individual.Only to find out later that the old ways do have merit, in some cases more than their own.

We might find out in the future the merit of past morality but we`re still stuck in a time where we feel the need to mostly reject the past to establish our own seperate personality, however many mistakes we alow ourselves to make.


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