Sixx, go back to the poetry section. I am sure this new dumbass Turak is ruffling feathers but he really isnt doing anything we havent all seen on here before. So dont start abitrarily enforcing stupid rules that just stifle forum action. Go write something gay.

oh, don't make me choose. i love you both.

At work I get a chance to talk to people who are the state leaders of the green party, I have a customer who’s an engineer designing stainable homes and green houses, and all kind of other activist, one thing we’ve talked about is how to share ideas with other people. There’s lots of interesting ideas in your article, but the last thing someone want to be sold on is a problem, You’ve a long list of what you believe to be wrong or backwards, you can’t expect people to get excited about getting a new problem. To be a better article you need to provide people with solutions, and these solutions should be flexible so people can chose their own course of action.

ooo, i want to try this just for shits and giggles.

YOUR generation is the one that is wrong and BACKWARDS, and its this IGNORING of problems and REFUSAL to face and deal with them that makes you so fucked up. This SELFISH desire to stay in your happy little comfort zone is bullshit! A better article? I believe in all the shit it mentioned, how could anyone make a better article? For not going out and researching every single thing on it you are an uneducated dumbass! Instead of providing sources you have to go and find your own, and if tehy contradict teh article, find another one that supports it because it IS RIGHT!

Their own form of action? YOU IDIOTS WOULD CHOSE THE MOST SELF CENTERED SOCIOLOGICALLY DETREMENTAL SOLUTION EVER!

you are a little pussy who never had to fix a problem on your own, you exect someone ELSE to look at it and poof magically fix it!

gee, now i know why turak does this, it's fun! anyways, btw ambriosio, none of that bullshit was directed at you, nor do i believe any of it.

nor do i believe any of it.

I wonder, is this an actually dissertation? Or just an idea that you grew by being mentally subverted by hidden, or non-hidden, propaganda?
If you are currently attending/working at an accredited university, you can find volunteers easily enough to further your theory. Or just pay them $20.00 to spend an hour or few going through it..
If you actually get proof ( which shouldn't be that hard ) on any two of the specs, funding should be forthcoming on it's own.
If you do not wish to attempt this, Which i believe you should to prove your theories to a point of publication beyond an internet forum, Then you are spouting propaganda and nothing more...

I should tell you that i believe your theory holds water. You just need to take it to the next step.

Child: what made you write this?

I once met a child that tried to copy me.

He could not do it.

So you are an ape: so? What else is new?

Believe it or not: accredited universities do not have a monopoly on truth.

Truth is not a monopoly held by elite exclusive EXPENSIVE scientific 'studies'.

Your idea that this is the only way any truth can be proven reveals that you have never proven to yourself anything. Unlerss you went to an exclusive scientific study, and had them 'prove' scientifically that you could tie your own shoelaces.

This snobbery I see everywhere on the Internet.

ALL of you are demanding! SHOW US! TELL US! PROVE IT!@

This is nothing more than consumer shopping. It is not thinking or being logical. because when they DO prove it: you go:

'I DON'T LIKE THAT BRAND! I LIKE MY BRAND! So ef YOU!'

which is the boring bullshit all of you hold up as being 'logical'

As long as you whine and scream and demand that some HIGHER! AUTHORITY 'shows' you... and 'proves' something to you.

You will continue to be frustrated idolizers... unhappy because all your superheroes turn out to have feet of clay

so is turak trying to convince us that we shouldn't need convincing... ?

EXACTLY: you moron.

NOBODY can 'convince' you... you IDIOT except yourself... you stupid stupid consumer.

i say: so turak is trying to convince us that we don't need convincing.
turak says: exactly.

i post this just in case he edits his post when he realizes what just happened.

How can I say this? You can never convince an idiot that he is indeed an idiot. Only when you find out for yourself that you are indeed an idiot: will you ever be convinced.

when you realize what just took place, i hope you have the humility to accept defeat, at least in that one 2-line exchange.

I'm still not following turak's line of reasoning. He tosses out the word "consumer" as if he's above all that and not a consumer himself. But the very fact that he's on a computer connected to the internet throws that out the window as bullshit.

We should change his user title to "Dark Fallacy". That'd be hawt.

Did I SAY they did? OR.... Did i offer a suggestion based off the amount of papers that I've had to read that have been similar in nature.

*HANDS YOU A MIRROR*

Did I, Myself, say that? I believe that i said i agreed with it.

Riiight

*Sighs*You wouldn't happen to have any money would you? I want to see how true that old adage is...

ok... let's see...

this article is false completely. let me elaborate.

we live in a material world. nothing beyond matter and energy exists. the term 'mind' is an abstraction by which we call the processes in our think muscle that we don't have the intelligence or patience to understand. society is a result of this muscular spasm we call thought and is thus just as ridiculous a 'thing' as our 'minds' are. nothing is ever destroyed since matter and energy never just disappear and order is random and dictated by physics anyway. things are as they must be.

we obviously like to think we're more than that but we're not. we're animals which are just organs working together which are made of cells stuck together made of atoms made of things we are not good enough to understand. we cannot know even an arbitrarily large finite number of things; never can we know everything. our thought is very limited and is limited by the laws of physics which dictate what we think.

matter is all that exists. void does not exist. vaccuum is absurd. space is not infinite nor is time. neither is continuous. reality is an illusion. matter is absolute and thus arbitrary. nothing really exists.

as animals, we do what we must do and we have no control over it. we are killing our world and it is right and just that we do so and it cannot be stopped by you or by me. what will be will be. all your base are belong to us.

the meaning of life is to reach the end. there is no meaning in the universe and no nothing. existence is impossible since contradictions exist and cannot exist at the same time. if i really existed, i would be all things and all things would be me in existence. i am not all things and nobody is, or i am and i decide what is.

living is a disease. death and entropy and disorder are good. oh, life is the best way to bring about death. life is a machine which creates little order for a while and makes absurd disorder. humans are life at its finest.

the big bang was a cosmic accident, an abortion of physics. nature is resilient and we are picking up the pieces. our order is trickery. vanity. it is destined, fated, it cannot be otherwise.

to procure pleasure for ourselves is our purpose, because the more order pleasure we gather to ourselves, the more disorder is created in the garbage.

consumerism and capitalism are ingenious. more people are creating more disorder than ever before. the nuclear bomb was a cosmic triumph. earth is an overachiever.the sun does its part.

we have no purpose, no existence, no nothing. to believe otherwise is vainglory. to wonder about the meaning and justification of our actions is to question that 2 + 2 = 4, to ask the it to stop raining. we are machines and cannot be made to do other than what we will.

by the way, this one's for my new plaything, turak. go fetch, boy.

Your cryptic remarks only make you a smartass: keep to the issue at hand.

Also: idiots who are addicted to proving they are smarter than other idiots never have anything to contribute except their own idiocy.

And there lies the never ending question... Did you even Read the post as it pertained to yours? I believe not..
Hmmm, and why hasn't the author of the original post said anything to me?