Still, you lack that one crucial fact... why evolution alters us correctly... how it does it.... how it manages to do it so quickly.

going via the gene idea, then that would mean as animals breed they gain better versions of themselves with each passing generation, and while that can loosely be proven nowadays, there is one problem, humans themselves have become odd, and we tend to mate with that which is akin to us. Smarts to smarts, strong to strong, beauty to beauty, thin to thin, etc.

In the past we would have just mated with whoever we saw, and, usually, whoever was strong enough to show off theirselves to the womenfolk. This means that we would have gained physical strength, but not mental strength, and yet we still did, and there is no explanation as to why.

In fact, the alteration which results in children being born so early was done mainly to stop children from popping out when they were too big to pop out, since our brain size had increased, yet nobody has any means by which to explain how this happened, since this would be a DRASTIC alteration in the woman's genes.


I guess that's a fine post.. ahh well.. *snores*

It doesn't always alter for the better. SOmetimes it alters us in a potentially harmful way, either we will overcompensate for that potential harm or we will die from it, or it may never become an issue because of our static living conditions.

Exactly what I mean guy person, that through out time, evolution has not always had "good" results per say.
Ok, if you think on is as if you were the planet. No seriously... if you were the planet trying to sustain all the various life forms, how would you control it? natural disasters, viral infections, bacterial growth... all the things that are generated by the planet. Now, here comes along a species, that has managed to evade many of your resources for population control, the only option that you have, is to create larger, better, stronger and more extreme options. Virus's have evolved, yes evolved, for a singular purpose besides the actual virus survival, to better perform the job it has. It's sole purpose can only be population control. Natural disasters seem to occur far more often than they did 20 years ago even. bacteria is more invasive to better fascilitate its role. Humans, threw the world a into a loop because of its evolution. It became stronger in general.
When you talk about strength being a primal factor, its true JP. However, hundreds of years ago, the mind and its attractions started to play the most significant role. Hence, our population in general is smaller in body size. In some countries, it got very small eons ago. If you look into history (what is available) you can see that the social and environmental conditions created changes in the populace. In egypt, before the introduction of other races into the gene pool... the people were very short IF you were part of the higher society. The lower class, were very large in conparison. We know this because we have many bodies to compare from different classes. Obviously,... the higher class didn't work as much physically... figures huh.

In Russia... the body size of its peoples was large, more physically massive for a longer period of time. It's children grew up faster, worked harder, and traveled longer distances.

Remember i'm talking about before mass country travel took effect. That rather mixes things up a bit.

Anyway, its to damned early in the morning for this If you look at history, and what physical data there is out there, you can see the changes to the human body and brain, in conjunction with the environment and society. It doesn't prove that the theory of evolution is 100% correct, but like I said before, it offers more plausible proof than any other theory out there. Just DNA isn't the only factor, it is the tool.

You still haven't explained how it knew to evolve the human female body so that they would give birth long before they normally did.

No wrong. Mutation does not take a long time, but Evolution does. Evolution is the progression of a species of organisms, from one form to a superior form, which is better suited to survival in its environment, via mutation of genetic information, and inheritance of selected traits. If you read what I said you would realise that mutation does not always guarantee superiority, and more often than not mutations are detrimental, therefore the process of a single organism evolving may not take long(a single generation - take down syndrom people for instance, one single mistake[three instead of two of the 23rd chromosome] makes them so radically different from a normal person), but a whole population may take thousands even millions of years depending on reproduction rate and mating partner selection processes.

Because the advantageously mutated survive while the weak die.

Selection of mate criteria, animals in the wild possess selection criteria, usually the strongest in the attractive traits mate. Same is true for humans.
Steadily the more intelligent human survived over the stupid, Neanderthal versus CroMagnon. The CroMagnon's wiped out the Neanderthal because they were smarter, and used tools, and used simple machines like the Wheel and the Incline Plane.
~~If you are a violently militant feminist you perhaps shouldn't read any further.~~
If you look at the world today where women are objectified, and regularly selected by physical beauty, the same was likely true in the past. But the only difference was that the dominant males probably had to be smarter to survive and breed. So you have a smart but ugly male with a dumb but beautiful female, the resulting child would likely be smart and attractive to some degree. Over time this intelligence has passed on to become mainstream, and while some may be smarter than others, some are more beautiful.

Thine thoughts pertaining to evolution doth strike a chord within me which forces thy thoughts to remain constantly present. When thou speaks of mutations taking forever, one is remotely correct, for a mutation itself must be induced after some variable in the environment about the animal. Thou, however, does falter slightly when it pertains to thine own theory, which, while an interesting one, lacks enough evidence to back it. However, in the end, thou hast placed forth fine points, though thou must still battle against thy foes who are striking against thine theories.

I'm sure you have the wrong thread, the "Your Irrelevant Opinion on the Value of Anothers Arguement" thread is somewhere else, this is Evolution Solved and requires at least some modicum of reasonable arguement which you can support, not just your foppish rambling.

*Hugs the V-man*

One thing.. you said it isn't mutations, but evolution, then you start to use the term mutation in the next one pertaining to the alterations.

And nobody has yet to explain how exactly the human female managed to become altered correctly so that the baby would pop out early. (If you have, just point it out to me since I'm too tired at the moment to read everything).

John, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. And you obviously won't look at any actual facts. Nor will you read what I say either. I never once said that the genes choose what gets passed on. Its merely a case of one aspect of a trait dominant over another.

I decided to show you an actual scientific report since you can't seem to do this on your own. This deals more with Gene-linked diseases, but it all works the same.

This is an article I found on the university database, its very long so if your willing to take the time read it all the way through it is pretty thorough in its description of evolution and how it works.