[quote=apostate87;those who ask for proof.[/quote]

dear boy....

A boy CONVINCED AGAINST HIS WILL
IS OF THE SAME OPINION STILL

you do not NEED someone else to give you any proof

the only reason you are doing this is to rebel because you are spoiled:

"GIMME DA PWOOF! I WANNA SEE DA PWOOF!"

When it is shown to you: you throw the truth on the ground: stamp on it, and destroy it and have a tantrum:

"DAT'S NOT WHAT I WANT! GIMME! SHOW ME! I WANT PWOOF!"

until you grow up enough to understand that it is YOUR job to find the proof: you will never amount to much in this world...

take a sabbatical from your computer: take one year, and read books and talk to people in person one-on-one

get out of your insulated shell

this forum is a vice for you: kick your addiction to it.

I think we're all inside of a hairball and that would make our god and creator a kitty. ....damn cats.

I selected other because the universe was created at the exact moment i first gained consciousness. Everyone sees the world differently... we all live within our own universe. And it dies the very moment we do. Perhaps it's somewhat of a Solipsist's point of view? I don't know. Where am I?

What happened to this Turak being? I enjoy what he said. only because it's true...

I happen to believe a little of what stupideity said and a little of this theory,

The "universe" was a void. One day that void contemplated itself, all of a sudden things were being created because of that awareness. In other words i think the void is supposed to be consiousness... i dunno i'm still trying to figure it out

I would have been greatly enriched by not ever having read this thread.


I'm a mixed Deist/Taoist. I think determinism is bunk on a number of fronts, including free will and the origins of the Universe. Beyond that I'm in the air. I could almost go into reincarnation in the pure, Ocean of Creation type of sense where our world is a brief blip, a bubble in an endless divine stream. Although I'm not sure if I really believe in the possiblity of an eternally existing reality or metaverse. But then again, I think just trying to cope with ideas like sentience and time is freaky, much less trying to comprehend the full picture.

Also, the internet is the single greatest tool for communication and education the human race has stumbled on in our known history.