it's you.....i know it changes the struture, that's what i said.....thus, you have a new structure.....

STRUCTURE 1 (with you alive!)

1. the concept
2. the 4 people, the instruments
3. the 4 of you getting together
4. the 4 of you playing music

STRUCTURE 2 (with you dead!)

1. the concept
2. the 3 people, the instruments
3. the 3 of them getting together (even if they were already together in a band prior, and in fact haven't even truly left, they still get together)
4. the 3 of them playing music




and yeah, initial argument lost.....what was it again? but then again, has any topic here in the philosophy section ever truly stayed on topic? i mean, philosophy as it is always branches elsewhere into other modes of philosophy.....

but anywho, talk to you later......it's FOOTBALL time!

~ciao

decline of art? you start....i'll catch it later....peace

"God is dead..."
-Neitzsche
"Neitzsche is dead..."
-God

haha i remember hearing that one day and thought it was funny... i wish i could get into this discussion, but i haven't really studied in dept on Neitzsche. i only know what my Philosophy class briefly covered.

the arguements made by neitzche, though i'm terribly unread on him sound a lot like ta'oism. Only so much in that the idea that contorting a persons morals into what you believe is rightouse, or trying to better a govt, or a way of life by changing it to, well what is believed to honestly be better, actually MAKES THINGS WORSE. that people's effort to change the world is the cause of mysery. so dissasociate/withdraw and become passive, follow the water's course kinda deal. not sure if this actually added a damn thing or if its just that off topic, but hey, enjoy.

NO, NO, NO, NO!!!! Oh my God!!! What blasphemy!!!

Please, do not confuse "eastern philosophy" (which is fuckin' nothing but faith based idealogies) with "western philosophy" (which is philosophy...in the sense that it should be used).

Nietzsche wasn't sayin' follow the water's course...he wasn't sayin' become detached (although he did became quite detached in his later years). Nietzsche's sayin' "FUCK THE WATER! If you wanna be on land, go for it! If you wanna go upstream, go for it! It might not be easy, but who gives a fuck?!"

Meh, like i said, not well read enough on the guy, i retract my statement due to it being bullshit lol

Nietzsche condoned the WTP argument. 'Nuff said.

Like Kierkegaard, he didn't believe in a divine beginning and that it was an overlapse.
I'm thinking Nietzsche's "imagining being" was his ego gone in reverse.

I would like to ask you a question... and please be honest in your reply:

Have you read any of his books?

that's right, because turak's also, would you have guessed it, a phd in philosophy.

I see you have not seen fit to answer my question.

Why is this?

Some people are once a week posters.

I have read a few of his books.

Did he just demand a reply from the author of a thread that's over a year old and who hasn't been active in nearly 3 months?

Now that's comedy.

Pure gold

i felt compelled to answer.....

Down south we call that "acting a little big for your britches".

You pathetic small minded pieces of shit:

if the only way you can get your jollies is by sneering at me because I made an honest mistake: vomit upon all of you

You sneer at anyone who makes a mistake: don't you?

None of you ever make mistakes: do you?

None of you ever admit you made a mistake... do you?

That is one reason why I despise pieces of shit l who sneer at other people's honest mistakes.

So I made a mistake.

so what?

Personally: just between me and all of you pieces of shit:

I do not give a flying fuck how many mistakes I make.

You see, you poor morons: the only way you can learn anything is by making mistakes. And admitting them. Which none of you ever do.

Which is another reason I despise shits like you.

that post made me smile

that post should make you go red with shame

again: you expose why I despise people like you.

The rigtheous do not despise the wicked, though the wicked often detest the righteous.

what are you>? eh?

a masochist?

get over yourself child: go live in your self-created fantasy: or shut off your computer and try to grow up

what's it like to be old, bitter and uneducated, to realize you've wasted your life away trying to convince others of your brand of lies, and finally come to grips with the fact that the real-world, physical experiences and emotions you talk about are only skin deep and give you no more pleasure. i wonder if, on your proverbial deathbed, whether you would come crawling back to the forums, and applaud us for our abstract and airy debates, love us all the more because we don't need nature or even otherr people to be happy. go home, turak. nobody here will ever listen to you.