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Gay cloning. - 05-05-02

If a person of homosexual orientation were cloned, would the clone still be homosexual? It would be interesting to see if homosexuality is biological or environmental. Personally, I think it's biological, although if that's the case, wouldn't there be a gene that defines that characteristic? Would people eventually be "edited" out of it? Is that ethical? Is that Natural?


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05-05-02

I really don't believe that cloning in and of itself is ethical in the first place. I've always felt that homosexuality is a result of environment, perversion, or choice. Either way, cloning scares me and I hope to never live to see a human be cloned...although I have the feeling that my fears will soon enough become a reality.


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05-05-02

Gender and sexuality are biological although both can be repressed or twisted to "prove" that the opposite is true.I dont think its ethical and definatly not natural to change genetics like that unless there is open consent for the operation.Children should not be made to order.


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05-06-02

it would be interesting i supose, but i've always been queasy about cloning. both with the potential horrors of it from my own overactive imagination [i.e. mutations] and the dangers of corporations getting their paws on the process.

other than that, what red said.


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05-06-02

wow, cool topic. hrmmm. *scratches head*

First to address: "Is it ethical? Is it natural?" I think we're diluted to think that anything humans do is truly natural. We eat cooked meat, not at the temp of fresh kill, we chemically engineer medicines, we smoke (have you seen any rabbits or squirrels lighting up? I haven't.) Animals don't wear clothes, drive cars. Nothing we do is natural, so to not do something simply because it is unnatural is hypocritical.

I think homosexuality is part biological but mostly circumstantial. My sister is a lesbian. She has a disease where her periods are irregular and she can't have children. She had to take drugs for this and has a very masculine build. We took karate, and both of us waged war on our father constantly. She simply has had so many negative experiences with men that the idea of sexual contact with one of them disgusts her. So I think a cloned homosexual who grows up differently will not be completely homosexual.


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05-06-02

i think sexuality, personality, ethos are all things that should be left to chance... it is unethical to even try and find a way to change that genetically in a person...


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05-06-02

Im fairly sure that homosexuality is mostly environmental, there may be small genetic influences, but if you think about it gay people are going to have little/no children so any gay genes would not be reproduced and die out.
  
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05-06-02

It probubly would be homosexual because if a homosexual would be cloned it would be interested in the same sex.But there is a 5 out of 100 chance that a gay person will reproduce another person.



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05-07-02

I agree that genetically creating a person is unethical, not to mention bad for the gene pool. It's interesting that most people think that homosexuality is mainly circumstansual. If a human clone was created, would it have a soul/would it be ethically sound to destroy it one it reached counciousness?


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05-07-02

I think homosexuality is enviromental. I have nothing against cloning per se, as long as the cloned child is allowed to grow up in a normal adopted family.


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05-07-02

If a clone of yourself were created so that you were able to harvest it's bodyparts to replace yours if you were to have an accident, would you? This is one of the best uses of cloning according to scientists. Personally, I'm not sure I would - if he were calking up and about, but if they managed to clone, say, a kidney that I needed, and not the whole body, I might since there are unlikely to be donors with a compatible organ....


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05-07-02

I think I'll tackle the homosexuality argument first.

Firstly, genetically, I think everyone is bisexual.

Any restraint or deviation from this is merely circumstantial.
Preference, etc., is left to societal influence on what is beautiful or desirable.


And about cloning... eh, I don't know whether or not it is ethical. I personally don't know where I stand yet on the issue.


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