everyone dies in the end... well... save a few people who strive for immortality (such as myself)...

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computers will save us

thatz if technology is still around, should be allowed to be still around......bah, screw technology.....some good philosophers on the sunject is Heidegger and Dreyfus

the problem of overpopulation, which is a sum of numerous malignancies caused by close living quartes and a bad ratio of people to resources has been an issue for over forty years. i would say that the powers that be have been devising solutions for several of the problems. there have been great advances in medicine, biology, and engineering. several projects are underway to mitigate and even do away with some of these problems we have. i do believe however, that the issue will eventually lead to war. humanity is too closely connected to progress with out unification and concrete goals for the whole. i believe this will only come by a world government that is not democratic.

Totalitarianism will fail as would anarchy...

Break throughs in medicine only make matters worse as you get a huge increase in none working old people who become a drain on society.

If we start eating each other then it might all work out ok.

Mo HAHAHA !!!! Tentacledead !! Ye GRIM bastard !! ( see eat dead thread lol ) !!

Over pop eh? or is it more of a some dont contribute to the world? survival of the fittist !! or like Shshio Samma feels THE STRONG LIVE and the WEAK DIE!

Hell Nature will take care of us when needed ..

Self thinks that in some sick way we need the citys human rot here and there , remember its the LOWERCLASS that scares the hell out of the MIDDLE class makeing them work to try and catch up with the UPPER CLASS !

yes, but Shishio is dead... isn't he?

Self would like to see some kind of a Demo/Comie Gov. exist vs our current Bur/Demo where its all about yer $$$ or could be said your as free as your $$ alows ..

Basicly a GOV. still picked by the ppl giving the ppl many of the same freedoms they enjoy here in the U.S. as is .
But then TO RAISE /LEVEL the standard of living go COMMIE !!

The freedom to choose your job unless X amount of time goes by without YOU CHOOSING one ,in such a case GOV gives you one !!
ALL work/ jobs will basicly pay the same anyways depending on how demanding the class of workso you would still have upper and lower class work but the lowers would still be a GOV controled living example...

BOB is a lower class worker like say fast food server ..he works only 2 days a week ( due to the number of ppl able to do this job workers in this level are not required to work 5 days etc. unless they are over achivers or want more $$ )
On Bobs 2 days of work as long as he puts in his MINIMUM Hour req. all living expences are covered ..
The Gov styled Home ..constantly upgradded and super eficeint with the latest to make life better and NOT WASTE RECSORCESS !! ,same goes for TRANSPORTATION, MEDICAL ,SCHOOLING,FOOD ETC.!! ALL BASIC NEEDS COVERED !

Now in such a situation yer still gonna have the bumms that just dont wana work at all bla bla ...so GOV. will take care O dem NON PRODUCTIVE TYPES too oh look test subjects for what ever ! by choosing to be nonproductives its the GOV/PPLs perogitive and hehe being a Commie Gov we can employ da ppl to catch the bums

Under such a system self belives ppl would be happier and there would be less waste of things including ppls time !

Hell Bob could spend any number of his remaining days doing whatever he wanted ..Legaly bumming ( like we all do lol ) ,going to school etc. Who knows some ppl might just become MULTI-talentred profesionals Bob could be a plummer,food server hold a PHD,and a writer etc.

Of course there would be restrictions on ppl too like each male or female is only allowed 2 children of their own biological origin after that FIXem ! penalty for over produceing ( since stariulisation (sp!) would be free ) to make room in the society and prevent over pop kill the guilty parent who evaded being fixed at the 2 offspring limit ..

Self belives Many LAWS would be death penatltys upon proper proof ..and at the same time crime would be less as it does no good to steal things that everyone eslse already has !! or if thier not rated to have something its not worth the effort/ penalty to have etc.
Self has more on this but this is enough lol !!

..maybe self will post a thread?

There isn't nor ever has been any such thing as democracy so I'm with you on that Lord..pretty much any change is good change.

even evil change?

Why the HELL not !!

Eternal recurrence aside, "Evil change" is why humanity is where it is at this moment, quick action with prejudice, war, and just generally a need for the quickest exit is how "states" have been run for a long time. Morality changes with each community and in the future present i'm sure there will be many twisted and lovely moralities.